Biphentin: The Newest ADD/ADHD Medication in Canada
ByDespite there being many medications available to treat Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADD or ADHD) in the US, there are relatively few medicines in Canada. We had one new medicine added to our arsenal in Canada around September 2006 – Biphentin. This article will summarize what role Biphentin can play in treating ADD/ADHD.
What is Biphentin?
Biphentin is a new formulation of methylphenidate. Methylphenidate is the same medication that is found in Ritalin. Methylphenidate has been around for over 50 years. Despite many concerns and warnings discussed in the media, it is a safe medicine, when taken as prescribed and monitored by a physician. It also can work very well. Approximately 70-80% of people with ADD/ADHD will have significant improvement when they take this medicine.
In Canada, methylphenidate also comes as: Ritalin, Ritalin SR, and Concerta.
In the US, methylphenidate also comes as: Ritalin, Ritalin LA, Concerta, Metadate CD, Focalin XR.
Biphentin is being marketed in Canada, and is made by Purdue Pharma. It is not being marketed in the US. I was told (in a personal communication – certainly not official!) that Biphentin may eventually be marketed in Europe, but likely not in the US. Why not the US? I was told that it is very competitive in the US to market another form of Methylphenidate.
What are the characteristics of Biphentin?
Biphentin is a long acting form of methylphenidate. It lasts 8-10 hours with once daily dosing.
Biphentin is a capsule – with little beads inside. This allows the medicine to be ’sprinkled’ onto soft foods like: apple sauce, yogurt or ice cream. This can help with children who cannot swallow the pills. In Canada, this is the only medication option for methylphenidate that can be taken by children who cannot swallow pills. (As a side note, Adderall XR – which is an amphetamine, can also be opened and sprinkled.)
Biphentin comes in multiple strengths. This flexibility of dosing may make it easier for your doctor to find the right strength for you.
The strengths are: 10 mg, 15 mg, 20 mg, 30 mg, 40 mg, 50 mg, and 60 mg.
Who is Biphentin approved for?
Health Canada has approved Biphentin for the treatment of ADD/ADHD across the lifespan. Specifically, Biphentin is approved to treat ADD/ADHD in children, adolescents and adults.
What are the side effects of Biphentin?
Biphentin’s side effects are the same as the side effects of the other methylphenidate products. The common side effects include: decreased appetite, insomnia, worsening of tics, approx. 2% risk of slowing growth. There are rare concerns of agitation, mood symptoms, etc. [N.B. This post is for educational purposes only - speak to your Doctor about side effects in detail]
How much does Biphentin cost?
Biphentin will most likely be covered under private insurance plans through your work. If it isn’t, I am happy to report that in general, it is cheaper than the newer forms of ADD/ADHD medication. The price does depend on the strenght of the pill.
The cost of Biphentin for 30 days of treatment is estimated as follows:
- Biphentin 10 mg once daily for 30 days: $29.40
- Biphentin 15 mg once daily for 30 days: $38.40
- Biphentin 20 mg once daily for 30 days: $46.80
- Biphentin 30 mg once daily for 30 days: $60.90
- Biphentin 40 mg once daily for 30 days: $75.00
- Biphentin 50 mg once daily for 30 days: $89.10
- Biphentin 60 mg once daily for 30 days: $103.50
These prices are listed in Canadian dollars. These are estimates, and the prices may vary at your pharmacy.
As a brief comparison of cost – here are estimated costs of some of the other ADD/ADHD medications in Canada:
- Concerta 18 mg once daily for 30 days: $71.70
- Concerta 36 mg once daily for 30 days: $90.90
- Concerta 54 mg once daily for 30 days: $110.40
- Adderall XR 5 mg once daily for 30 days: $96.00
- Adderall XR 30 mg once daily for 30 days: $96.00
- Strattera 10 mg once daily for 30 days: $134.97
- Strattera 60 mg once daily for 30 days: $134.97
- Ritalin SR 20 mg once daily for 30 days: $25.20
- Ritalin 10 mg once daily for 30 days: $18.30
When can Biphentin be used?
Biphentin can be used to treat ADD/ADHD at any age – it is approved for the treatment of kids, teens and adults.
Biphentin can be used as a ‘first line’ treatment – i.e. the first medicine given for someone with ADD/ADHD.
Because Biphentin is a once a day treatment – the patient doesn’t have to worry about taking a pill in the middle of the day. This is particularly helpful for children who can take their pill in the morning, and then not have to go to the office at school to get their noon medicine. This makes it easier for a child at school.
If someone has been on a different form of methylphenidate and had problems, it may be reasonable to try Biphentin to see if this long acting formulation may work better.
If your child has trouble swallowing pills, but your doctor thinks that methylphenidate is the right choice of medication, then Biphentin is the best choice.
Can Biphentin Be Abused?
One of the concerns with any stimulant medicine is the risk that it may be abused. If someone takes too much of the medicine, and tries to take it as a drug – i.e. snort it – then it can produce a ‘high’.
I am happy to report, that similar to the other long acting preparations of stimulant medicines (like Concerta and Adderall XR), Biphentin is not abusable. That means that someone couldn’t use it to get a ‘high’.
It is important for you to also know that Biphentin is not addictive.
How does Biphentin compare to Ritalin, Ritalin SR and Concerta?
All of Biphentin, Ritalin, Ritalin SR and Concerta are the same medication – i.e. methylphenidate. The difference is the preparation and how it acts in the body.
Ritalin is a short acting medicine, and is required to be taken two or three times daily for symptom control. The advantage is that it is cheap. It doesn’t work as well as the long acting forms.
Ritalin SR is a long acting preparation of methylphenidate which has been around for a long time. It doesn’t work very well for many people. Sometimes it lasts 6 hours, but often it doesn’t work well at all. The advantage is that it’s cheap.
Concerta is an excellent preparation of methylphenidate. It is a once daily, long acting medicine. It works for up to 12 hours. It is well tolerated and has been a great medicine in the treatment of ADHD for the past 3 years or so in Canada, and longer in the US.
Biphentin is a once daily, long acting medicine. One major advantage over Concerta is that the capsule can be opened and sprinkled in apple sauce, yogurt or ice cream. This will help children with trouble swallowing. It is also approved for the treatment of adult ADHD, which Concerta is not yet (though I hear that this is coming shortly…).
One final difference between Biphentin and Concerta is that Biphentin releases approximately 40% of its medicine in the early part of the day, whereas Concerta only releases 22%. This may mean that Biphentin may work better for ADD/ADHD in the morning, whereas Concerta may last a little longer into the day.
The Bottom Line About Biphentin:
Treatment of ADD/ADHD requires many components – including psychotherapy, behavioral management, academic supports, and medication. This article has been focusing on medication for the purpose of describing a new treatment for ADHD in Canada. For more information on the other treatments of ADD/ADHD: 1) sign up for my ADD/ADHD newsletter at www.TheADHDDoctor.com, and 2) peruse this blog for more articles about ADD/ADHD.
Biphentin is a new great option for the treatment of ADD/ADHD in Canada. It has its unique features, as described above. It is welcomed, as in Canada, we have fewer medicines available than in the US. Biphentin may help in the treatment of your ADD/ADHD (or that of your loved one).
If you are considering the use of Biphentin, ask your doctor. You may want to print this article, and take a copy with you to your next doctor’s appointment.
138 Comments
November 27th, 2006 at 10:04 am
Thanks for all your newsletters Dr Handelman. My son is 15 and since the first grade we have been trying to find something that works for him. He has had a difficult time finding doctos too with the shortage in the area. we have finally found on about 45 minutes away. Anyway this child has been on Ritalin, Concerta, Statterra, Biphentin and now we are trying Adderal XR. So far all show little improvement. In the primary grades it wasn’t so bad as it was easier to get teachers and aids to work with him one on one and we could help a lot at home. However, now that he’s in highschool it’s like a whole new world. No comunication from school and they think that he will just do the work on his own. Are there other options that might help this boy?
Thanks Sandy
November 27th, 2006 at 10:51 am
Sandy –
It is a good idea to try Adderall XR. Apart from Strattera, all of the medicines you have listed (Ritalin, Concerta and Biphentin) are all the same chemical compound. So, if one doesn’t work at all, the others won’t either. It is wise to switch from one to the other if there is only a partial response, or a duration of response issue.
It is possible that Adderall XR may work. Other than that, we are limited in Canada.
There are some ‘third line’ treatments – i.e. ones that only work after being on the ‘first line’ and ’second line’. Probably the best one there is Wellbutrin. That said, it is not great for ADHD.
Please let us know if Adderall XR makes the difference.
November 27th, 2006 at 5:56 pm
Hi,
The doc should be working hard on getting to an optimal dose. It seems he needs some accomodations at school. Does he have an IEP , there could be a learning disability. Some kids learn better , one on one rather than in a classroom as from his experience . I suggest a tutor or even better a buddy-tutor . Your child needs somebody to help me believe in his innate abilities and make him successful and engage in a few close relationships.
Allan
December 4th, 2006 at 8:00 am
As an ADHD sufferer, I hate the stigma associated with the stimulant drugs used in ADHD treatment. These drugs, used properly, have a very low chance of addiction. That being said, your statement:
“similar to the other long acting preparations of stimulant medicines (like Concerta and Adderall XR), Biphentin is not abusable. That means that someone couldn’t use it to get a ‘high’.
It is important for you to also know that Biphentin is not addictive.”
is blatantly FALSE. Concerta and Adderall XR are most certainly abusable and are potentially addictive, especially when abused.
December 4th, 2006 at 9:53 am
Hi Ralph,
Thank you for your comment.
I agree with you that there shouldn’t be stigma around the stimulant medicine.
I am interested in your knowledge of how Concerta and Adderal are abused.
Can you share?
Thanks,
Kenny Handelman
December 18th, 2006 at 8:35 pm
Hello. Today my 13 year old daughter has been prescribed Biphentin. I have just read there is a 2% chance of slowing growth. Since my daughter is on human growth hormone, would her risk increase or do i just have to wait and see? We have tried Strattera but her difficulty with swallowing pills made us discontinue usage. Thanks for any information you can provide, Jill.
December 18th, 2006 at 8:47 pm
Hi Jill,
The issue of growth slowing with Biphentin (or any stimulant) in the context of receiving human growth hormone is a situation that I haven’t considered before.
It is best to contact your specialist in charge of the growth issues for this one. It is possible that because growth hormone is being taken, that the risk is less for this, but I have to say that I don’t know, and you will have to check with your specialists.
All the best,
Dr. Kenny Handelman
January 16th, 2007 at 11:16 am
I am hosting the Canadaian Micronutrient Conference on May 4th & 5th, 2007.
There is a significant ADHD component at this event, and I am hoping to have information about the conference posted on your site.
Please contact me if you require more information.
Thank you.
January 22nd, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Why have you not mentioned Dexedrine Spansule? It last throughout the day. It is fairly inexpensive. The drug is dextroamphetamine, so it is different than both methylphenidate and the 4 drug combination in Adderall XR.
February 6th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
My son is 6 he been diagnosed with severe adhd and biphentin works like a miracle, where ritalin was not working anymore. He was taking 40 mg of ritalin a day and still not able to have an attention span of more then 1 minute. We tried concerta – but it didn’t work at all. But with biphentin, he doesn’t have to go to the principal’s office 3 time a day to get his medication. He is more calm and he is learning to read – which we thought was impossible this years. So I think they should cover this médication because the cost is too much but biphentin works.
February 23rd, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Dr. Handelman,I have a 7 year old son who is diagnosed with ADHD and no other disorders. He was on Concerta 18 to 36 mg for two weeks,with no obvious improvement. He is switched to Biphentin 15 mg two weeks ago. I noticed that the first two or three day of taking Biphentin he was doing much better in school, accroding to his teacher’s daily comments. But by the third and especially the fourth day, his work output is back to the level before taking biphentin, far below what the expected work output of students in the same grade. We took him off Biphentin over the weeends, by Monday and Tuesday, he is doing much better again, but not so by Thursday. So is there a change in him to say build a tolerance to the medication? If so, how should we against the dosage. Thanks.
February 23rd, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Hi Robert.
Thanks for sharing your son’s experience with Biphentin. It is worth noting that although Concerta and Biphentin both have the same medicine in them – i.e. methylphenidate, some people responde better to one than the other – in your case – Biphentin works better.
You are bringing up the question of developing tolerance to Biphentin (and this can apply generally to any stimulant). Well, I have to say that I have never heard a story quite like that. It does sound like he may need a higher dose of biphentin at the end of the week than he did at the beginning. This is definately one that you will have to review with the prescribing doctor.
I certainly have seen patients who have developed what seems to be tolerance to stimulants – so that over time, there was a slight dosage increase. That said, I have never seen someone with what sounds like this kind of tolerance within 1 week.
Talk to the doctor about the dose of biphentin. It may be beneficial to take the biphentin 7 days per week – and this may create a more stable dosing regimen, or your doctor may suggest a different dosing strategy altogether.
Please do come back and let us know what happens in the future.
Thanks for sharing,
Dr. Kenny
March 13th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Just an update. My son is around 55 lbs. He has been on Biphentin 15 mg for the last four weeks. For the first 3 weeks, his teacher’s comments are “excellent, on time” for Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays., “distracted” for Thursdays and “quite distracted” for Fridays. Last week, the fourth week he has been on Biphentin, the comments are consistently “distracted” for early weekdays to “quite distracted” for late weekdays ie Thursday and Friday. He was fine Monday monring last week and after lunch, he became distracted again. We still take him off on meds during weekends; I am aware of the current recommended regiment of daily dose every day.
March 13th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
continued. So the dose of Biphentin is upto 20 mg per day. The doctor also arranged for EEG . She noticed that at times my son starts while he was talking, “phase out?” for a while then restart the conversation. My wife and dont’ notice that detail for maybe we are used to him. Once in a while he does take some time to respond when we call him. Maybe he was too involved in his reading or playing. The doctor mentioned “sometimes a bit of delay in answer”. Son said I had to think or he did not want to answer Dr’s questions. His birth was normal, quick delivery. No major sickeness. He had a fall on his head at 2 years old, no obvious injury or loss on consciousness or vomitting. Otherwise healthy. Normal with hand and eye co-ordination. We will see his GP for a complete physical and also arrange with school for a psychological analysis.
March 17th, 2007 at 4:22 am
more Biphentin experience. My son has bee on Biphentin 15 mg for the last four weeks. He is around 55 lbs. The first three weeks, Mondays to Wednesdays he did very well in school. Sincere thanks for his teacher who writes comments every day on a note book so we the parents can closely track the son’s progress. But on Thursdays and Fridays, he is “distracted to quite distracted. ” We take him off medicine during weekends. The fourth week however, seems the 15 mg dose has no effect on any day of the week, not even in the early part of week. Now, this is the fifth week, he started taking 20 mg. We have not yet seem any dramatic changes so far. His doctor booked EEG to more diagnosis.
April 12th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Hi I have something I would like to ask you but first I have a son 4year’s old the doc wants me to put him on Biphentin and here’s the thing if you put a child on medication can they learn to deal with the problems later in life or are we just looking for an easy out? when they get in to there teens and realize that they can make there own choices and don’t want to be on this stuff all there life can they learn then how to control them self? or are we just populating the jail so we can have an easer time when there small? are we cheating them out of a fare life later on? I am rather sure that at some point my son will want to stop taking pills and live normal or what happens if he can not afford them? will there always be someone there to pay for them? no I don’t think so! so in the long turm are we really helping them? or actually hurting them? this is what I need to know before I start him on this stuff thank you for your help
April 12th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Hi I have something I would like to ask you but first I have a son 4year’s old the doc wants me to put him on Biphentin and here’s the thing if you put a child on medication can they learn to deal with the problems later in life or are we just looking for an easy out? when they get in to there teens and realize that they can make there own choices and don’t want to be on this stuff all there life can they learn then how to control them self? or are we just populating the jail so we can have an easer time when there small?
April 13th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Hi Stephanie,
You are asking a very very important question.
I will give you some of my thoughts, but I hope that you will take these questions and ask your son’s doctor.
ADHD is a real medical condition – as real as asthma or diabetes. The medicine can play a very important role for most people, but it is not a final answer in and of itself. In addition to medicine, one needs to get parenting support, behavioral treatment, academic help, etc.
In other words, the medicine can support the child to function better, and then the other treatments improve the functioning and teach the child the skills he or she needs to grow and mature.
When it comes to medication in a child with ADD or ADHD who is under 6 years old, there is new research that shows that this can be done safely. You can read a review of that research here: http://addadhdblog.com/adhd-medication-for-3-4-and-5-year-olds/
When it comes to the Biphentin – it is a product of methylphenidate. Methylphenidate was the medicine studied in younger children, so Biphentin may be a reasonable choice if medicine is needed.
To learn more about ADD or ADHD, and helping your child succeed with it, take a look at: http://www.secretstoadhdsuccess.com
All the best,
Dr. Kenny Handelman
May 15th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
My Son started on 15 mG of Biphentin a week ago and after five days has was increased to 20 mG. The teachers comment’s have been very positive for the first couple of days. I have noticed however that he seems very agitated or angry in the evenings. Some of the innitial issues were working on resolving seem to be worsenning rather than improving. Is this an effect of withdrawl at the end of the day possibly? Should we be concerned about his behavior when he first arrives home from school… Anger…agitation?
Regards,
Robert
May 21st, 2007 at 5:30 pm
Robert,
Thanks for your question about your son taking Biphentin.
You didn’t tell us how old he is, or how much he ways, but these are low-ish doses of biphentin.
There is a side effect of stimulants – which is called ‘rebound’.
This was much more common in the short acting stimulants – like Ritalin.
What this refers to is that a small percentage of people actually seem worse when the medicine is leaving their system at the end of the day, than if they hadn’t taken any medicine at all.
It was much more common with short acting medicines given two -three times per day.
That said, a sensitive child could experience that with a ’shorter long acting’. Biphentin lasts about 8 + hours. This is a shorter long acting methylphenidate.
Whereas Concerta is the same medicine, and last 10-12 hours.
If this issue with Biphentin lasts, ask your doctor if this could be ‘rebound’, and see if Concerta may help with it.
It is also possible that he doesn’t react well to methylphenidate (the medicine in biphentin), buy this seems less likely if you are getting good feedback from the teacher. If this is the case, though, consider one of the other medicines – like Adderall XR, Dexedrine, or the non stimulant Strattera.
All the best,
Dr. Kenny
May 25th, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Wow- i read other parents comments and i see my son. He is 9years old and about 55lbs- hs doctor just started him on biphentin and id really do see changes, but like other parents i find my son is quick to anger and to get “annoyed” when the meds ware off. He is currently on 20mg and we have bben advise to increase to 30mg but he stopped sleeping and complained of a headaches. We reduced him back down to the 20mg untill we can get to see his doctor. It is good to see my son excell in school and admazed at himself just how well he can do in school.
Neena
May 29th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
I am 53 years old with ADD. I tried Dexadren a few years ago but didn’t like the feeling both physical and the intensness mentally. I smoke pot in the evenings and enjoy the occaisional glass of wine. My questions are 1) Would I feel any different on Biphentin 2) Are my other two vices contra-indications to this drug’s use?
Thanks
May 29th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Hi Lorne,
I will give you some thoughts – but please be aware – these are for educational purposes only – you need to speak to your doctor about your treatment.
1) There are two main types of stimulant medicines. There is methylphenidate (which includes Ritalin, Ritalin SR, Biphentin, Concerta, Metadate CD, Focalin, daytrana, methylin) and there are amphetamines (which include Dexedrine, Dexedrine spansules, Adderall XR and ADderall). When it comes to trying medication, you try one in one of the groups, and if it doesn’t work, you should try one from the other group. In your case, you tried dexedrine and it didn’t work well for you. So, if you want to use a stimulant – you should try one of the methylphenidate medicines – biphentin and concerta are the best options in Canada – because they are long acting. In the US, there are more long acting choices.
Or, you could try the non-stimulant, Strattera. (you can read about it on this blog – just search for Strattera).
2) Using some alcohol and cannabis while on ADHD medication is not a contraindication. You need to be careful. You may get more drunk or more high when on these medicines than you would without. Also, mention it to your doctor so he/she can monitor you appropriately (heart rate, blood pressure, etc.)
I hope that helps.
Dr. Kenny
June 7th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Hi Dr. H
My 8 years old son was diagnosed Sept 2006 with ADHD and is on 5 mg of Ritalin twice a day. The past week his behavior has changed and is being very talkative and disruptive in class. Could he need an increase in the dosage of meds? Is there a daily pill available here in Toronto that lasts longer than 4 hours but only gives 5 or 10 mg with each dose?
Thanks
Love your blogs.
June 7th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Hi Heather,
Thanks for your comment.
If your son is on ritalin and it isn’t working well – it could be side effects, or it could be that the dose is too low. Best to talk to the doctor about that one.
When it comes to a longer acting formulation of the medication – the article above about Biphentin should be helpful.
Biphentin lasts about 8-10 hours. The dosages of biphentin range, and do have a fair bit of flexibility – to allow minor titration.
You can see the dosages above.
There is another long acting methylphenidate – which is Concerta. Concerta lasts about 12 hours, but it has fewer dosage options, and so it may be harder to titrate.
I hope this helps.
Dr. Kenny
June 8th, 2007 at 9:11 am
Thanks
He tried Concerta first but developed tics with it.
July 19th, 2007 at 9:56 am
Hi Dr. Handelman,
We have just switched my daughters meds from Adderall xr 15 mg to Biphentin 30mg. She is going to be 8 years old in September. She has been on it for 4 days. The first 3 days it was wonderful, her impulsivity has diminished and she was more focused. However on the fourth day it hardly showed that she was on it, she was very hyper. She attended a friends B-Day party could that have been why it didn’t work, because due to her excitement her addrenaline canceled her meds in her body??? Our should we consider augmenting her dose of Biphentin???
Sincerly yours
Nataly
July 21st, 2007 at 8:06 pm
Hi Nataly,
Thanks for your comment about your daughter’s experience with Biphentin.
This is definitely a question for your doctor.
It also may make a difference how she does over a lot more days on the dose.
That’s about all I can say…
I hope biphentin works out!
Dr. Kenny
August 16th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
Dr. Handelman: I wanted to thank you for taking the time to reply to so many people who are struggling through issues with ADHD. I have a couple of questions myself that I was hoping you could answer. But, I figured you’d appreciate a bit of background to the questions so let me start there.
was diagnosed with absence seizures and ADHD. He started taking Depakote for the seizures and it has worked very well in controlling the seizures. The neurologist also prescribed 5 mg of Focalin to help with his ADHD. Oh my goodness, what an unbelievable difference the Focalin made! Without Focalin, he could not complete a simple 2-task list without four or five reminders. But right from the very first day on Focalin, he was able to complete lists of 6 or 7 tasks independently without reminding. The improvement in the quality of his life was incredible.
One year ago, when my family was living in the US for work, my son (now
We have now returned to Canada (our permanent home) to discover that Focalin is not available. Our doctors didn’t want to start him on a stimulant because they said they had had much success with Straterra. So, we started him on Straterra, increasing from 10 to 18 to 25 mg per day. Unfortunately, we did not see the kinds of benefits that others had. At each of the dose levels, he was only a tiny bit more focused than with nothing. At 25 mg, he was so tired and would fall asleep two or three times a day, so we asked the doctors to consider taking him back to 18mg and to explore other options along the lines of Focalin (which we knew worked so well for him). The doctors agreed and recommended trying methylphenidate (in addition to the 18mg of Straterra). He started a generic methylphenidate at 2.5 mg and increased to 5 mg, but to our great disappointment, we have not seen any desirable effects from it. Instead, he became verbally aggressive (saying things like “slap” and “punch” and “hit”) which was completely unlike what he was like without the methylphenidate. We decided to take him off the methylphenidate until we can see our doctor. He continues on the Straterra at 18mg, and only has two 30-min periods of sleepiness during the day.
My questions are:
1. Based on your experience, what would you recommend we try? I have searched the internet for countless hours trying to find a Focalin-like dexmethylphenidate formulation (d-MPD) available in Canada, but with no success. I did however find peer-reviewed articles that provide evidence of its efficacy over the methylphenidate that is available in Canada, consistent with our son’s experience. School is about to start back and we do not have a plan for helping him get back to where he was when he was on Focalin. In one of the articles I read, d-MPD was judged to be equally effective as as Ritalin at half the dose. Does that mean the 5mg of methylphenidate we had tried with him was too low, and that it should have been twice the level of Focalin? We are so scared to try something higher than 5mg of Ritalin because of the aggressive behaviors seen at 2.5 and 5mg. Should we ask about Biphentin because of it’s long-lasting effects?
2) Can we do anything to access Focalin in Canada for our son? We know it works, we know the dose, and we can’t get it. It’s so frustrating.
August 17th, 2007 at 1:27 am
Hi Fred,
Thank you for your long comment.
I will share a couple of thoughts with you – and I hope they help.
I will be sharing a special report on ADHD Medication, as well as a ‘home study course’ soon, so watch the blog (or my newsletter) to get info on that.
Issues – for those who aren’t aware – focalin is an isomer of methylphenidate – i.e. ritalin. An isomer basically means that it has the same components, but is oriented differently in space. Like a right hand and a left hand all have 4 fingers and a thumb – but they are oriented differently in space.
Here are my comments to your email – and please review them with your doctor:
1) if you son was saying things impulsively -this could have been ‘vocal tics’. Worth asking the doctor about.
2) Some people are very sensitive to isomers – and do better with one than another. For others it matters little. It seems that your son is sensitive. But don’t make a final decision yet…
3) We have no focalin in Canada – and I am not aware of it coming soon. If it does – I will be sure to let you know on this blog. (sign up in the top right corner to get updates).
4) In the absense of focalin in Canada, and having had a bad reaction to regular ritalin – is it worth trying biphentin – or concerta? I would say yes – and I would say biphentin. Sometimes more sensitive children do better with a longer duration medicine than they do with the short acting. Why biphentin over concerta? Because you can dose it very low, and there are more choices to slightly adjust the dose. Of course – take my suggestion with a grain of salt – and ask your son’s doctor.
5) What if focalin is the only option that works?
Two things to consider –
a) work with your doctor to get the medicine from the US with a special exception. There are two major hurdles here: i) the company which makes it has to be willing to send it (either for free or for a cost) and ii) Health Canada has to allow it to come in. Although it sounds hard, the mechanism is in place for a reason and it is used for many medical conditions.
b) Take a trip to the US every 3 months and get a doctor to write a prescription for Focalin for your son. There are many logistics here- and one consideration is that you likely won’t get insurance coverage for your son’s medicine.
I believe that you are in Saskatchewan. See if you can get in to see Dr. Declan Quinn – who is smart, experienced, and does a lot of research in ADHD. He is at the university hospital in Saskatoon.
Let us know what happens.
All the best,
Dr. Kenny
September 7th, 2007 at 10:50 am
A quick update. With the fear of school starting up again and no prospects of getting in to see a doctor who works with ADHD, we decided to increase the methylphenidate from 5 to 10 mg, and continue the 18 mg of Stratera. Luckily, it seems to be working. We have been using this combination of treatments for about 3 weeks now, and things are going well. The aggressiveness in our son’s speech that we saw at 5 mg has not returned, and his ability to sustain attention is nearly as good as it was on 5 mg of Focalin. His mornings and evenings are even better than when we were using Focalin. Thanks for being there Dr. Kenny. Although your advice didn’t directly lead us down this path, it gave us the support we needed to not give up in dispair.
October 13th, 2007 at 9:22 am
I was glad to find this website. Very helpful. My son was diagnosed with ADHD last spring. He is very fidgety and looses his focus very easily. He was still mainting average grades, some B’s and C’ s and even an occasional A. He came home from school in tears one day because he could not get his work done. Through his assesment we were informed that he is very bright and that is why he has managed at school so far. We talked about trying some medication to help him and he wanted to be able to focus better at school. So we started the Biphentin He seems so much happier at school and we have noticed an increase in attention at home. We have not told the teacher that we have started this yet. HE has been on the mediction for only 11 days. We wanted to see if the teacher noticed any improvements in the class room. We will disuss with here in one more week. My only concen at this time is he seems to have trouble sleeping. He will be 10 in another month and he has always slept on average 9- 10 hours per night. Now if we can ger 8-9 we are lucky. His appetite has decrease a little but he is a good size child bif for his age. Most people thinks is approx. 12 years old. He is very active in competeive hockey and is on the ice 4- 5 times per week. He should be tired at the end of the day. If we continue with this medication will things get better with his sleep patterns? We have continued on the weekends with medication. Is this a good idea or should we give his system a break on weekends. Would this help him sleep on weekends? He is taking 30 mg a day. His weight approx. 105 lbs.
Looking forward to getting some advise.
Thanks , Sylvia
October 24th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
I have a question, my son is 6 and has been on Biphentin for approx 1 year. He has responded really well. In JK he was suspended for bad behaviour, and in SK after starting on Ritalin, his behaviour improved and now in first grade, after starting Biphentin, he has been invited to “respect lunches” for well behaved children. My question is that I am startin gto nitice old habit re-emerging, after how long of being on the same dose is it OK to increase, I would prefer to have him maintain the same dose (15mg) for as long as possible, but again, I see old habits returning, any advice you could give would be helpful.
December 7th, 2007 at 12:01 am
Hi,
My son just turned 7 in November and was just recently diagnosed (July) with ADHD. We always knew that something just wasn’t right with him. Is in grade two and has had problems at school since JK. Has been suspended about 2-3 times in his short school history. We’ve had the police at our house after a 911 call, not once but twice. Constant arguing with his younger brother and just plain oppositional behaviour at home is enough to drive our family over the edge. We first tried the diet change and did notice a difference in his “activity” let’s just say. Once we decided that the diet was not going to be enough, we re-introduced the wheat and dairy. Just had parent/teacher interview with my sons teacher today and she advised that they have noticed a difference in his hyperactivity (higher) than when he was on a more restricted diet. So obviously it was helping to some extent but not enough for the concentration and being able to complete a task, he has a very hard time staying on task. He just started his first dose of Biphentin 10mg yesterday, he is 7 yrs old and weighs 61lbs height 52″, so he’s big for his age. The doctor advised that it would take at least two weeks to notice any positive effects, which I believe is true. Do some people really see positive effects soooner than this? I will wait the two weeks and then evaluate his behaviour then. My doctor advised that I will need to call him in two weeks to advise how the dosage seems to be working. I am very anxious and hopeful that this is going to help him/us…..Medicating my child was the last thing that I ever wanted to do believe me…..but at this point I feel it is the only option, to help him and to hopefully restore some harmony in our family. We have our ADHD son and also a 3yr year old boy and a 15 month old girl. So life is busy at the best of times!!
January 28th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Hello:
Interesting posts by all. Our personal experience is our 6+ year old, Gr. 1 son was put on a trial of Biphentin 10 mg, 5 days ago. Having ADD and a combination of other difficulties, the first day on the meds we noticed a change in his behaviors. His older brother and sister and Sunday school teacher all made comments as to how surprised they were at his calm, focused behavior. What I have noticed is an increase in appetite (He could use a little weight anyway) and thirst; over the 5 days an increase in hyper activity and back to his “normal” bahaviours towards the evening; staying up later at night 10:00 as opposed to 8:30 -9:00, yet he is well rested in the mornings. I, like another contributor, have not told my son’s teacher, but am waiting to hear if she too is pleased with his improvement in concentration. I hope that our success will continue and that we won’t have to try various dosages and types of meds like others have.
March 13th, 2008 at 12:09 am
I do not think that you should report that biphentin is like adderall and can not be abused to produce a high. Adderall was taken off the Canadian market for a significant period because many people were inducing heart attacks, by attempting to get high from the medication. As well as when I began to research these newer medications for ADHD, I noticed that one of the websites that pops up frequently in the search engine is hightimes article on how a farmer got high on adderall. All stimilant medications are potential addictive and dangerous. And need to be carefully watched as well as there should be much clearer indications on this website as well as the containers themselve for adverse affects with other susbstances.
March 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Dr. Handelman, our son (6 years old) has had some success on short acting Ritalin (10 mg twice day), but he has had difficulties with the peak/valley effects. It also affects his appetite to the point that he doesn’t eat anything between breakfast and dinner time. We tried switching to biphentin (20 mg once a day), and he experienced fewer side effects, but his ADHD symptoms were not well controlled, even when we increased the dose to 25 mg per day. What would you suggest? What is the maximum daily dose of biphentin for a 6 year old (of about 45 pounds)? Can we increase the dose of biphentin, or should we switch to an entirely different drug, like Strattera?
March 29th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Hi,
Biphentin can go as high as 60 mg per day.
Review with your doctor if these doses are OK for your son.
If the ritalin/methylphenidate is working out – with side effects related to the preparation – it may be better to adjust the medicine and preparation before ‘jumping ship’ -i.e. change doses of the biphentin, or even try concerta (also methylphenidate).
All the best,
Dr. Kenny
p.s. to get a free special report on medication for ADHD, visit: http://www.medicationmastery.com
March 29th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Thank you very much for your quick response! So if the maximum dose for a 6 year old could be 60 mg/day, why does the product monograph for biphentin say that the maximum dose is 1mg/kg/day. If our son weighs 20 kg, wouldn’t this mean that his maximum dose would be 20 mg per day? Do I need to go back to grade 4 math class?
March 29th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Hi Lisa,
You are right – the product monograph does say a daily max of 60 mg or 1 mg/kg per day and your math is correct.
However, under a doctor’s monitoring, you could go to a higher dose – as long as side effects don’t prevent you from going higher.
All the best,
Dr. Kenny
April 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Hi there
My Son is 7 years old and started on Biphentin 15 mg a year ago…..after a few months he needed to switch to the 20 mg. Now we just switched him to 30mg. He is only 49 pounds so we cannot keep increasing his does. He is on a 10 day trail for the higher does but it does not seem to be helping…he is still distracted and chewing on his clothes and needs many reminders to pay attention at school. His teacher did say he has been a little better then last week but no where close to how she has seen him in the past pay attention. So I am to try this dose for him for the 10 days which is up tomorrow and if I do not think that is working we will switch him to 37mg Concerta. His teacher finds that his meds seem to wear off around 1:00 pm, making the rest of the day hard for him to get through. It almost seems to me like his body is matabolizing these too fast or he does really well then becomes immune to them…is this possible?
Please advise if you think Concerta would be a better choice
May 17th, 2008 at 12:53 am
my son just turned six in early may, and has been put on biphentin 20 ml dose daily. what does this medication make a person body feel like after it kicks in and starts to work? i dont want him to feel “high” or limp all day. this is the last thing i ever wanted to do but our family was like wild animals at the zoo every day with the upset from him, his yelling hating his sister who is 2 years older then him, wanting his way or everyone would pay for him not getting it. is this something he will need to be on for ever?
thanks
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:41 am
All medications for treating ADHD,( the non existent disorder,) all have traces of cocaine! All it does is dull the children’s mentality and then over time it does damage to the other parts of their brain. How can you say that it is effective and safe?
May 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Bonnie,
I am sorry that you are so misinformed.
ADD/ADHD is very real. Spend some time reading on this blog and see people’s comments – people are sharing how significantly their lives have changed since realizing that they have ADD or their child does.
These medications do not have ‘traces of cocaine’ in them. You are quite misinformed.
I wish you well.
Dr. Kenny
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
My son is 30 mg and since he has been on it he doesnt eat a much, not even junkfood. But also since he has been on it he has had three really bad colds. I just wanted to know if any one elce has noticed that there kids were sick more. He has lost 25 pounds and seems to have to clear his throut alot.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:13 am
Hi,
I’m not aware that there is research to say that people get more colds.
When you say that he has been clearing his throat a lot – I just wanted to let you know that that could be a ‘vocal tic’. It is worth checking that out with your doctor.
All the best,
Dr. Kenny
June 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Hello
You have indicated that Concerta only releases 22% of its medicine (e.g., 22% of 32 mg). What is the effective release rate of Biphentin?
I currently take either 60 mg/day of methylphenidate (3×20 mg) or 90 mg of Concerta. What would be my daily dosage with Biphentin (60 mg)?
June 7th, 2008 at 6:10 am
Dr Handelman you are great for anwsering all these people questions and helping them with your problems.DOnt know how you do it.I wanna share something honest with you.Share maybe a new insight on Ritalin SR,or Ritalin period for that matter.This is gonna interest you.
In the past taking Ritalin the first time when I was 18.So far so good intell I was introduced to snorting from a friend.About a year past and snorting beer was introduced to the Ritalin Achohol picture.Then I stopped doing that bit and move to snorting cocaine and beer for a year.Stoped that as well.
To make along story short .I turned my life around.Then decided to got back where I started and try taking my Ritalin PROPERLY.Im 22 and Im trying to figure out why is my body somehow have this ciggerette smoking and achohol intense urge everytime I pop my 20mg SR?And boy do I mean ciggrette and Alchohol craving.Is it somehow my body has devloped a memory(possibly from drinkin with it and smoking from this in the past) for this senseation of cigs and beer.I think its a way to come down from the side-effects?Not to mention this crazy EXPLOSION of Sexual Desire.SUPER SERIOUS.Its like everytime I take one its like I got pop another,another cigrette,Masturbate cigrette,beer cigrette or the stray cocaine feelings(mild feelings of temptation) Madness.I would love the to understand why is this happaning.
So I just dont take any type of Stimulant because of those urges.But orginaly it did help just cant make it back to those orginal feelings. Dont know why I am saying this but I trust you or maybe just dont trust my personal doctor. But I think this story is behind some people that come in your office and ask for Stimulants.Should I try the drug everyones raving about, Biphentin?If you could help I would be MORE than thankful.I hope this enlighted you.Your good man.Keep it up!
Chase
August 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I’d just like to comment on Chase’s story above. I’m not a mental health professional but I do live with a mood disorder. Taking a stimulant would do the same thing to me if I were not diagnosed, and treated for it. It may even do it while I am on my medication. I am unfortunately diagnosed with Adult ADD inattentive type as well as my mood disorder, my son has ADHD and takes biphentin. My psychiatrist has refused me stimulants over and over again for fear of creating an instability in me that would take forever to correct as I have been stable for a long time now. I also cannot take Strattera as it is based on an antidepressant type medication. It is frustrating to live with this illness and not be able to be treated for it. My greatest fear when my son started taking biphentin was that he had been misdiagnosed as ADHD and that he really had a mood disorder and that it would send him into a flying mania. Fortunately that did not happen and he is so much happier now on the biphentin than he was before. He is 10 years old, and it was him that came to me, and asked to see his psychiatrist, and it was him who told his psychiatrist he was ADHD and wanted to try medication. Our children aren’t stupid, they know when something isn’t right.
September 10th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
My son is 9 and in Grade 4. In Grade 1, I observed his behaviour in class, without his knowledge or his teacher’s knowledge, and I saw the teacher have to address him 31 times in an hour. I had been opposed to medication up to that point, but then listened to his pediatrician and read up on the neural-physiological implications of ADHD and Concerta. Since the middle of Grade 1, he’s been on 36 mg of Concerta a day. I learned that the medication should be taken with water, not juice or milk. Breakfast is fresh fruit and some for of protein, with some carbohydrates, with no auditory stimulations. We follow that with some morning HANDLE exercises. Lunches are carefully considered and prepared: some protein, fresh fruit, yoghurt, carbs, juice. Because of the Concerta, our son struggles with appetite, but we make every effort to make sure the staff at the school, and senior students who monitor the lunch break, try to get our son to eat. We reference that, if he doesn’t, he’ll fatigue quickly in the afternoon and then his ability to focus will likely shift to inattentive behaviour and subsequent negative reactions and escalations when his inappropriate behaviour is necessarily addressed. With the school, we have ensured that his Individual Education Plan clearly identifies his ADHD (something the school resisted) and essential strategies that need to be applied. This includes giving our son “the quiet place” to go when he recognizes an issue escalating. This is where he can exercise his mantra of “Stop. Breathe. Think.” It usually only takes a few minutes and he’s eager to get back to class. Importantly, from Grade 1, when he was assessed, we included him in all considerations, we celebrate the attributes of people with ADHD, we review material together, and we have him working on a power point presentation on ADHD. All of this is focused at his being ever more aware of his condition and, as he matures, more capable of managing himself. We added to this private swimming lessons (thus no distractions), recognizing that, with time, he could excel at something individually, that swimming would increase his concentration and motor skills. In the evenings, we read books during an hour of quiet time. It’s hard to find the time sometimes, but it is absolutely essential. Like “Supernanny” always says “it’s about routine” and, for ADHD kids, it’s all the more about routine. So, by the end of Grade 1, my son and I had read 248 books. Now, in Grade 4, he’s reading at a Grade 8 level. And, for Grade 3 kids, I can’t recommend the TINTIN comics enough. It really helped our son concentrate. Also, I think that video games are about the worst things for a kid with ADHD. We permitted non-violent games like Zoo Tycoon and LEGO StarWars, but stopped that when we found him exploding when told his time-limit had expired. We had an agreement that, for a week of good days at school, he could have one hour on the computer on the weekend, and for a week of good reports from his swimming coach, he could have another half-hour on the weekend, and that, for doing his chores on the property for the week, he could have a final half-hour on the weekend. When we saw his reddened ears and cheeks while playing, we decided that the two hours would be better spent doing something outside or with him, and we saw a decrease in emotional outbursts and more calmness. So where does all this connect with Concerta? Well, for us, Concerta is just about facilitating “focus” but it’s then the responsiblity to ensure that the focus is the most positive. Don’t expect the school to ensure that your child will learn. Don’t expect that your child will be okay with X amount of television and Y amount of video games. Concerta – or whatever medication – provides opportunity; the rest – and the most – is up to the parent. Frankly, I look at ADHD as my opportunity to be a better parent, to be more engaged, and the rewards are inestimable. Still lots of issues. Still visits with the Principal, but, interestingly, my son’s Grade 3 teacher asked if she could be my son’s Grade 4 teacher.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:51 am
Hello Dr. Handelman, My son who is 7 just started Grade 2, he has been pstruggling since Kindergarten when we went to a private psychologist that did much assessments and testing with my son to produce a report that said he is likely to have ADHD. Since then, he has more testing from another psychologist at a hospital that in working with a psychiatrist also confirmed this. Also he has a number of developmental weaknesses both psychologists noted. He was on Biphentin for the 2nd part of the school year with initially favorable results, that we noticed from day 1, but regressed somewhat when both his teachers unfortunately left the school – 1 on sabbatical and the other on maternity preventative leave. At this point, the dosage was increased with some favorable results with the assistance of my son’s private psychologist who gave the school a chart that both teachers assessed and made notes on a daily basis. We took him off the medication in the summer when he did have difficulties behavior-wise at day camp. On weeks when he was not in day camp, he behaved better with family care. Now that school is back, he is reverted to his ADHD inattentiveness and supremely impulsive behaviours.
So my question to you, is now that we are considering putting him back on Biphentin, can he be taken off of this drug after a few years, if we continue the behavior treatments and tutoring on an as-required basis?
One aside, we did learn 1-2-3 Magic from hospital he is being seen by where they showed this DVD to us & he does respond well to this method, especially with my husband. Im hoping that he will eventually do so with me too.
Thank you for reading my letter and I look forward to your reply.
September 18th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Hi Dr. Handelman,
I have a question for you.
I am a 32 year old male adult with ADHD with Inattentive Subtype. I have tried Dexedrine, Ritalin, Ritalin SR but could not handle the side effects which made me very anxious, increased my heart rate, made me jumpy, etc. I’m a very outgoing guy and the anxiety caused by meds created major problems.
Then I tried bupropion 300mg (once daily in the morning) and after 6 months I noticed my mood was better and my hyperactive side completely disappeared. However, my main problem with inattention need serious improvement. Therefore my doctor added Stratterra (25mg) which I tried for 6 months to improve the inattention- but it had the opposite effect and made me tired and harder to concentrate. I discontinued the Straterra and continued with the bupropion. Perhaps there was an interaction between the two meds?
The issue here is that my ADHD is about 90% inattention and 10% hyperactivity- and I have not found a medication that will treat my inattention. Caffeine has the opposite effect- if I drink coffee I cannot concentrate on anything at all.
I was told that the reason why bupropion effectively eliminated the hyperactivity (as opposed to inattention) is because it works on dopamine as opposed to norepinephrine.
Do you have any medication suggestions for my doctor to try?
Thanks!
September 19th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Hi MD,
That’s a tricky situation.
Wellbutrin has been shown to generally help both the inattention and the hyperactivity of ADD/ADHD.
Methylphenidate – which comes in ritalin, concerta, biphentin, daytrana, etc. – works predominantly on dopamine and works on both hyperactivity and inattention.
My suggestion?
As your doctor if while on Wellbutrin you could try a low dose stimulant. Maybe a lower dose will help the inattention, without causing so much of the side effects.
Another option will be the Tricyclic antidepressants – i.e. desipramine. These have their problems too -but there’s data that they work.
Best,
Dr. Kenny
p.s. to learn more about medications, visit http://www.medicationmastery.com
September 19th, 2008 at 5:47 am
I’m 44 years old and have Adult ADD and because of other mood issues cannot take ritalin or dexadrine based stimulants. I have tried strattera with no luck. I was recently placed on Alertec, or modafinil and have found it amazing. It’s still a stimulant but its had no negative side effects and is long acting. The only con is that it’s not covered by my drug plan and comes out of my pocket. It’s not horrendously expensive, but a cost none the less. I am the inattentive type and I haven’t lost, broken, or forgotten an appointment in days. I can now clean my house. I really didn’t know what I was missing out on. I have a greater appreciation now about what these kids go through, I had no idea how confused and anxious I was until I stopped feeling that way
September 19th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Dr. Kenny,
1) I forgot to mention that I’ve tried desipramine when I was 20 and got a serious reaction (itchy red spots all over my body). It is 12 years later- maybe I should give it a try again? I’ve also had an allergic reaction to modafanil.
2) What kind of meds are available in Quebec that are: long-acting, have less side effects, and work particularly for inattention?
3) I read a while back that combining stimulants with something like Corgard could work to reduce side effects?
4) I have found that sometimes taking meds or combinations results in the opposite effect (i.e. exaggerated inattention). Any idea why?
Thanks!
September 25th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Hi Dr, Handlemen,
My son is turning 8 next week, weighs 57 lbs and has been on concerta for almost 3 years. Grade one and two he was a straight A student. He has had a psych assesment, has a psychiatrist he sees regularly to monitor him. We noticed over the summer that he seemed to be really struggling with focusing and behaviours (which we hadnt seen in almost 2 years). He was on 54 mg of concerta and then 10mg of Ritalin for night time activities. He has been in grade 3 for almost 4 weeks and he is struggling so much the teacher said he will be failing his first eport card (not because he is not intelligent- but because she cannot get him to sit still long enough or focus enough to get any work done). His pediactrician said that she didnt want to up him to 72mg of concerta so she switched him to 60mg of Biphentin. I a concerned becasue I know that Concerta has worked so well for him in the past that possibly this drig will not work as well for him. I am also concerned that it will take a long time to “kick in”. Is this the case with this drug? Is this drug as strong or stronger than concerta?
Thanks in advance for your help
October 1st, 2008 at 1:44 am
My son is 9 and weighs 90lbs. He was diagnosed 6 months ago with Ring of Fire ADHD. We decided to try non-pharma. avenues first. We are now seeing our MD for poss. meds this week. He also has sig. learning disabilities and his aggression toward family has dramatic increased over the past 8 weeks. Biphentin seems like a good choice as he has difficulty swallowing pills. Can a med like effexor be added in conjunction to biphentin, or should we wait and see the benefits of biphentin first? There is family history of bipolar .
October 1st, 2008 at 11:22 am
HI there
My son started on Bipentin but is now on Aderall XR….it seems like some work for awile then just stop working. If your son cannot swallow pills then Biphentin in a good choice and that’s why we started with it as it can be taken apart and sprinkled on food such as ice cream or apple sauce….not chewed though…just an easier way to swallow
October 1st, 2008 at 11:23 am
My son has also tried Concerta but had absolutly no appetite on it and we were concerned as he is 8 and only now finally weighs 50 lbs. We have had no appetite issues on Aderall or biphentin
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:29 am
Dr. Kenny,
Is there any chance that Adderall will ever be available in Canada again. It is not available, at least it is not in Nova Scotia, since it was withdrawn when the FDA investigated it for sudden deaths due to cardiac arrest in children in the US.
ER
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Hi Jamie’s Mom,
Adderall XR is available in Canada and has been for some time now.
It is available across the country.
Ask your doctor, and check with your local pharmacy.
Best,
Dr. Kenny
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Thanks Dr. Kenny,
You are right, it is available, I checked with the pharmacy. I am having a terrible time with stimulants at the moment. I am currently on Alertec, I’m a 45 year old woman with mood disregulation and ADHD. Alertec is astronomically expensive and no one covers it, and I only have provincial coverage anyway. I tried a brief trial on Biphentin with no luck, it increased my depression so it is not the medication for me. It was an off label trial as Nova Scotia does not consider Biphentin a medication for adults and only considers it a benefit medication for persons under the age of 18. I was wondering about adderall as it is dexedrine based but have now found out it is non benefit also. In fact, here, the only long acting medication covered by NS pharmacare is biphentin and only for people ages 8 to 18. I guess I’m stuck paying full price for anything I want to take or go back to being a blithering idiot. I have been on stimulants for a little over a month now and have never felt so normal in my life. People I haven’t seen in months are walking up to me and asking me what has changed in my life. I have talked to everyone I can think of to find a way to get meds either covered or cost reduced. Pretty sad huh, you’d think we lived in the US.
ER
October 3rd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Hi ER,
Thank you for sharing your story.
Unfortunately, it is all too common.
The provincial government plans to pay for medicines is severely lacking when it comes to ADHD, apart from Saskatchewan. They have approved Strattera and Concerta for coverage.
In Ontario, doctors can apply for special coverage for concerta and strattera, but they are hard to get approved.
That is interesting that Nova Scotia gives coverage of Biphentin – only until 18 years old. Because Biphentin is actually indicated in adult ADHD.
I believe that the governments don’t decide this based on science – they decide based on money…
In any case – I hope that you are able to stay on the medicine which is helpful to you.
I suggest you ask your doctor if it is possible to get samples of allertec, or the ’smart cards’ for biphentin. These cards can be given to doctors from the company, and they authorize a week or two of free medicine. This may help.
Best,
Dr. Kenny
http://www.medicationmastery.com
October 5th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Hi, my son is 6 years old and he just started on Biphentin two days ago. This is his time on medication, while it works great during the day, by 6:00 he starts going back to his old habits. He is normally asleep everynight by 8:30, it’s now also 11:00 p.m. and he is wired for sound. He is so hyper that he cries because he say’s his body needs up for a few more hours. His prescription is at 15mg. Does he need a higher dose?? Do you have any recommendation to help him go to sleep? Any recommmendation would be helpful.
Thanks
October 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Hey Sandra,
I’m not a Doctor, but I’ve been riding the stimulant roller coaster with my son since he was 3 years old and he’s 10 now. My son has taken medication to sleep since he was 3. Initially that was our complaint. Not that he was ADHD, but that he was a chronic insomniac. It was a pediatrician who told us that he was ADHD, and his first sleeping med was Clonodine. After that he tried about 7 other things to make him sleep none of which worked. He started Ritalin when he was three and long before long acting versions were available. The rebound effect in between doses was just as you are describing, he was wired for sound and disruptive beyond belief. Out of desperatioin when he was 5 I finally gave up on stimulants and we started treating him with antipsychotics. It worked on his agression and behaviour but certainly not on his focus and concentration. Last year, he came to me and asked to be put back on stimulants. He’s 10 now and can verbalize more specifically what he wants. He wanted to try Ritalin again because he was doing poorly in school and his behaviour was deteriorating again. We put him on biphentin, and although he needs a dosage increase he’s doing fine. Now as for the sleeping problem, 3 years ago I gave up on the doctors. I decided that I was going to give him Melatonin. He was 7, extremely sleep resistant since birth and I give him 2, 3mg capsules an hour before I want him to go to sleep. His psychiatrist has since added 12.5mg of Seroquel to this to stop him from having nightmares. Now my son is a special case as his insomnia has been an issue from day one, but my point is that you could mention Melatonin to his doctor. It’s available cheaply and over the counter, and relatively benign. It’s much safer than what some parents do like giving their kids gravol or benedryl as long time use of these OTC meds can cause high blood pressure.
ER
October 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Does anyone know where I can find a rating scale specific to girls? Everything I am reading is that ADHD presents itself different in girls then boys but I can’t seem to find a specific rating scale for parents to try to see if their child may be ADHD. I think my boyfriends daughter is ADHD as she has many of the same personalities of my son who has been diagnosed …but some characterisitcs are very different with her and my boyfriend does not think she is ADHD…but others are also pointing to the fact that she may have some tendancies. I know he is probably in denial as I also went through that with my son….but am so thankful we finally tried treatment and he is doing so well in school now because of it. She is very needy and has a lot of anxiety issues and jealousy issues and over the top with trying to get attention as well which we have currently been taking her for some councelling on and the social worker has brought up the posssibility of ADHD. Please let me know where to find some info specific to girls as I noticed many of them go undiagnosed.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Generally any of the ’standardized’ ADHD Questionnaires that have standardized data on them can be useful for girls. For example – the Conners questionnaires.
This relates to the fact that these questionnaires are standardized and when a girl fills it out, it is compared to the results of other girls of a similar age.
Ask your doctor or psychologist,
Best,
Dr. Kenny
October 13th, 2008 at 4:34 am
Hello Dr Handelman, I am a 47 yr old woman just beginning my journey of ADHD meds. The death of one of my children 3 yrs ago has made me intolerant to things I used to be able to accept. My ADHD is one of them. I had tried Adderall but found no significant benefit – cost was high also. I am now on 15 mg of biphentin. Although I am seeing a benefit, hope to get more on a higher dose, I am nervous about increasing dose or even continuing on this med as I am having an uncomfortable rebound effect approx 9 to 10 hrs after. I get what can be described as a hot flash, I become agitated, and can feel the anxiety in my chest. I am also noticing my sleep is being disturbed. I also feel worse ADHD symptoms than if I hadnt taken meds. My question for you is, if I took a Xanex upon the onset of the rebound, this would take care of the agitation/anxiety and probably help the sleep, but I hesitate because I dont want to start a cycle of pill taking. Can you tell me if your experience shows the rebound effect or any of the symptoms I mentioned lesson over time? I should tell you that I am very sensative to meds, my perscribed dose for Xanex is .25 and this works well for me. Thank you.
October 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Karen,
If you are getting a rebound from Biphentin – talk to your doctor about it. It may be that a small dose of regular ritalin will help, or alternatively Concerta may not cause the rebound.
In so far as using xanax – that’s a discussion for you and your doctor.
Thanks for contributing.
Dr. Kenny
November 5th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Our son who is 10 was diagnosed with ADHD approx a year ago. We were having trouble at home and at school and I thought maybe he had ODD. His defiance was getting out of control, a simple task like going to brush his teeth was a fight everynight with explosives of rage both from him and myself. He has tried medications such as Strattera, Concerta, Rittalin and now Biphentin. He is on a 50mg dose of Biphentin and it seems to get him through the day but just in the last couple of days I’ve noticed he seems to be more hyper and defiant around 6:00 p.m. So here we go again with the yelling, spanking a complete zoo like situation. He also is on a sleep medication so by 7:00 he get’s his pill and by 8:00 he’s out……peace throughout the house. We also have a another son who is 11 and a daughter who is 3. In the mornings if I don’t get his medicine into him right away around 7:30 a.m. he’s driving everybody crazy…he’s not very nice to his older brother and I’m hoping that when his self-esteem gets better this sibling rivalry will diminish. I guess what I’m trying to ask is should we consult with the Dr. about increasing the Biphentin to the maximum dose? I believe that if this is the worst medical condition that my child can have, we’ll get through it. I ask God for patience and guidance everynight on what is the best way to deal with him. I also thank God that my son can walk, talk and play sports. They say that children with ADHD excel in sports. Our son plays hockey.
Thank you for reading my story.
Susan
November 11th, 2008 at 2:53 am
Dr. Handelman, My 14 year old daughter was on Ritalin for 3 years and was not working very well. There were alot of highs and lows, mostly lows. The doctor has now perscribed Prozac to help with moods he said. I find her very hard to deal with and she is always negative about everything she does. She wants to give up on school because she is not getting the help she need through the school. I was told she is not severe enough for funding because her IQ is too high. She has diagnosed with Central Auditory Processing, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and a few other problems. We are waiting for funding but it is a long process.
Biphentin is not a covered drug under the Pharmacare program and your Doctor has to send in a letter to pharmacare to send it to the appeal process and in Manitoba the appeal board only meets once a month. If yoiu have Blue Cross as an insurance coverage they will not cover the drug without Pharmacare covering it..So any parents who have Blue Crossmake sure you tell your Doctor that it is not a covered drug by Pharmacare.
November 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Hi Dr Handelman. We started our then 5 yo son on 25 mg of Biphentin a year ago and the results brought tears to my eyes. He was able to sit and color for the first time and man can he ever draw. It was amazing. Working closely with his teachers we had to increase his dose to 30 mg after a month or so. After what we deemed a growth spurt we adjusted his dose (workiing with his pediatrician) to 40 mg. Teacher’s comments in his communications bag were great now.. Here we are a year later and we are starting to hear from his new teacher about his difficulties staying on task and completing things in the appropriate amount of time. I have always stopped titrating his meds the first signs from his teacher that things seemed to be better. I have increased his biphentin to 45 mg and have not heard any negative things from his teacher but will investigate that this week. I am afraid to go too far with the meds in titrating but is it possible I am being too cautious ?? Do you normally see this drug having to be increased ? this often? other than the occassional headache and slight apetite loss he does great on Biphentin. We have an appt with his pediatrician early Dec to discuss these issues. Any thoughts ?
jim
November 14th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Dr. Kenny,
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but with dosages of Concerta vs Biphentin, if you are on 20mg of Biphentin and you know it could be tweaked up a bit (I’m an adult obviously) would that work out to be the 36mg dose of Concerta or is there some other formula they use to match one against the other. I’m just starting out on the Ritalin thing. I have to try Biphentin first and if it works great. If not I have to switch to Concerta. I have to use my GP to rx it because all the adult psychiatrists don’t know how to prescribe stimulants. I’m having a real problem with completely uninformed doctors here.
November 14th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Hi,
Not a stupid question at all!
The best way to figure out comparable doses is to go back to the regular ritalin equivalent – because both of these medicines are methylphenidate – the basic ingredient of ritalin.
You can read about converting Concerta to the ritalin equivalent here:
http://www.addadhdblog.com/concerta-getting-the-right-dose/
Biphentin releases about 40% of its medicine as fast release. That means that if you take the dose of concerta and multiply by 0.4, that is what you are getting right away.
It’ll take a little calculation, and now you’ve got the tools to do it!
Best,
Dr. Kenny
November 29th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Hi,
I’m age 49, with a long history of depression—and insomnia.
3 years ago (around this time of year) I suffered a major depression and admitted myself to a psychiatric hospital, where I was willing to accept any treatment offered. In addition to the immovane I’ve been taking for 10+ years (for insomnia), I was given remeron, effexor, and lorazepam. I had also been taking Alertec, but the hospital decided to discontinue it (probably because of the cost).
After about 6 weeks of hospitalization, I decided to ‘experiment’ with the remaining alertec I had at home. This made me feel considerably better, and I was discharged shortly afterwards.
Until recently, I have still been taking all of these medications. A few months ago my psychiatrist put me on biphentin (60mg), believing that it was ‘better’ that Alertec. I found that it worked wonders, but only for an hour or two. Then, by accident, I discovered that alertec seemed to prolong the effects of Biphenin—so I was feeling alert and energized throughout the day. My pharmacist assured me this was safe—but my psychiatrist disagreed, discontinued the alertec—and replaced Biphentin with concerta (54mg).
Concerta doesn’t do much, and I have found myself slipping back into depressed feelings which I can ill-afford, particularly as I am under-employed, and without family support. I fear another downward spiral is approaching and have only have two capsules of biphentin left. Without the (30mg) biphentin I took an hour ago, I’d have been incapable of writing this note. I’d have simply felt too hopeless to even bother.
Thank you for hearing me.
I’d greatly appreciate any suggestions you might have.
November 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Dr. Handelman,
Like Jamie’s Mom, I’m interested in Concerta-Biphentin conversion. I had problems getting asleep under Concerta and I’m currently looking for the right Biphentin dose, hoping to get the benefits of Concerta without this side-effect. I thought I understood the math, but your last post confused me. Biphentin releases 40% as fast release; Concerta 22%. So conversion from Biphentin should be close to .22/.4=.55: 72 mg Concerta would be roughly equivalent to 40mg Biphentin, in terms of immadiate realase. Of course, what happens later on during the day in another matter. In any case, my personnal experience is that 50mg Biphentin is not even close to 72 mg Concerta in terms of benefits, even in the morning. I find this puzzling. An earlier post about Concerta dosage combinations (e.g taking 72mg as 36mg+36mg or as 54mg+18mg) gives me a new solution I might try: go back to Concerta and try 72mg as 4×18mg for a while.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
hi i had my son on biphentin for about a week now and what a great inprovment… The teachers and principals are really pleased with him..
December 7th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
My 9 yr old son is recently treated with Biphentin 10 mg. We saw 20% improvements in morning schedules only. Now doctor increased dose to 15 mg for 2nd week and we are waiting for results…..
Looking to 20% improvements, i hope he will improve with time and increased dose.
But my question is How long I will have to give him this medicine? Is there any end to this medication?
Two side effects that bother me. Low apetite and slow growth. My son already very poor at dining table. His height and weight chart is already at lowest level. Please guide me. Thanks Katy.
December 22nd, 2008 at 6:17 am
I have tried every ADHD medication available in Canada (except some of the tricyclic antidepressants, because I need to stay on clomipramine due to its extreme benefit to my irritable bowel syndrome) up until biphentin was approved. Ritalin/Concerta gave me a short-term memory, though my executive dysfunction (which is worsened by comorbid Asperger’s) remained–but only for two months. After two months off them, I tried them again, but they still didn’t work. (I tried higher doses before, but the side effects were problematic and the benefits minimal.) Is it possible that biphentin would work and continue working for me?
Do you think that getting Focalin or Desoxyn from the States would be worth a try? (I didn’t react well to Adderall XR–it worsened my hyperfocus like crazy–and dexedrine just made me jittery.) I’m kind of desperate–all indications are that I have a gifted-level IQ, but I’m an eighth-year university undergrad with a 2.0 GPA because of my ADHD, executive dysfunction, and anxiety. The total number of psych meds I’ve tried is currently at 17–a mix of antidepressants and ADHD meds, plus clonazepam (no anxiety relief, too sedating), and Ativan (worked for my anxiety, but I’m hesitant to use it other than for emergencies because I liked it too much). The best thing I’ve found is treating the anxiety with marijuana. Any ideas?
December 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Hi Kenny,
Just a quick note to say how much I enjoy your website, how much I learn from it, and what a wonderful resource it is for patients, their families, and their doctors. Congratulations
PS. hope you are doing well. Too bad we didn’t get a chance to work together at St. Joes. Michelle
January 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Hi Dr. Handelman
I stumbled on this blog and quite happy I did. My son just started on Biphentin today and I am feeling very anxious about it. He is in grade 1 and is 6 years old (40 lbs) and is on 20mg. Since starting school (JK and SK) we have had feedback from the teachers about his lack of focus. He is bright and has had a decent first report card (all B’s) but his grade 1 teacher was quite concerned about his inability to focus and suggested we have him tested. At the same time we decided to also enrol him in a tutor program (we were afraid of him getting behind because if the lack of focus). He is a wonderful little boy – great energy, happy and just a joy. I am really scared that we will see a change in his personality after reading all these blogs. I know you do not have a crystal ball – but can you tell me what we can expect. I am hoping that homework will not take all night anymore and that he can rejoin the class in all aspects (he now sits right next to the teacher and misses most recesses) but I still want him to be him.
Thanks so much – this is all so new to me.
Rhonda
January 13th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Hi Rhonda,
Generally, personality change is rare as a side effect to the medicine.
I’m glad you found this and that you’re participating…
Here are some resources that may help you out:
My free newsletter: http://www.theadhddoctor.com
Free social media site: http://www.adhdworld.com
Free video podcast: http://www.adhd.tv
Good overview of ADHD and it’s treatment: http://www.secretstoadhdsuccess.com
Medication: http://www.medicationmastery.com
Best,
Dr. Kenny
February 19th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
I’ve been on Adderall XR for the past few years, and while it initially worked well, over the past year it seems to be working less and less. I suppose this means I’ve built up a tolerance to it. I could ask my doctor to increase the dose, but given how expensive Adderall is (and the fact that I don’t have any sort of a drug plan), I was thinking of asking if I could try Biphentin instead.
I’ll be seeing my family doctor next week to talk to her about this — that seemed easier than trying to get in to see the very booked-up specialist who originally diagnosed me, which might take months. But since my family doctor isn’t as informed about ADD meds, I need to make sure I go in with a fair bit of information. So my questions are:
- Do you think switching from Adderall XR to Biphentin might be a reasonable thing to try given the situation I’ve described here?
- If so, what might be an appropriate starting dose, given that I’m on 15mg of Adderall currently and while that worked for a long time, it’s no longer having much effect?
Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
February 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I am wondering how you choose which letters you will respond to?
I would like to answer Susan who wrote on November th 2008.
My 9 year old son was diagnosed in the Summer of 2007 and I came to terms with medication (Biphentin 15mg) only at the end of October 2008, when things got out of hand at home and at school. I can relate to your praying – I do the same. But you need help to understand and cope with your child’s condition. He cannot help the way he is, so spanking and yelling will not help. I son’t know what resources are available to you. I see a child psychiatrist every week and discuss events and situations and get feedback. One thing I have learned is to avoid engaging in fights. For example, if brushing teeth is a struggle, try giving your child the choice between brushing before or after his bed time story. If he gets very agitated, try holding him very tight againt you, like a hug and gently ask him to breathe with you. YOU need to be calm, show love and patience. When it gets to be too much, tell him you need time to clear your head and go for a walk or lock yourself in the bathroom for 5 minutes. Try NEVER to hit him. Good luck!
February 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
For Lynx – Hi I am a 47 yr old women who is just starting the add meds journey. I started with biphentin and worked up to 15 mg and it was working well, what was hard for me was the side effects. For me it upset my stomech so much that I needed a panteloc med daily (its expensive) and I had a really bad headache each evening as the drug started to wear off. So my doc has started me on adderall XR, I am up to 15 mg (but I know I will have to go higher yet but I knew that with biphenton also) but i dont get either of the side effects which is a huge relief. You are right, the adderall is alot more expensive than biphentin. My doc says that everyone is different and some folks dont get side effects from biphenton. I want you to know that I found better results with 15 biphenton than the 15 adderall, so will be increasing to 20 soon. Considering that a person might be on these for the rest of our lives it would be fantastic to find one that was well tolerated and affordable. Good luck.
February 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Just for us older folks that are still trying to manage ADD in our lives and are dealing with our kids in the evening who may or may not have inherited our ADD/HD. Biphentin is a wonderful med. I was on it for 6 months. That being said, I have to get up at 6am, and if I don’t take it upon rising, I’m falling back to sleep within an hour or two. That just can’t happen. So, if it lasts for 10 hours, at 3pm I’m useless. I ended up, with my doc’s consent, messing around with a few different meds and found that 40mg of Ritalin SR at 6am and 40mg of Ritalin SR at noon was the ticket for me. I can now parent rationally without losing my mind through homework and the supper hour, bath time and bed time. I have a sleep disorder so I take very strong sleep meds (not the conventional kind) so the Ritalin does not give me insomnia.
Also, I’d like to speak to Rhonda, who was concerned about a change in her son’s personality. My son has been on and off some form of Ritalin since he was 3 years old. He is now almost 11 and comfortably settled on 30mg of Biphentin in the morning. However, when he was younger (5-7 years old) I did notice a slight sense of withdrawal from him, and he did lose a little of his “spark” per se, which annoyed me to no end. I pulled him off and put him back on Ritalin over and over. This was long before Biphentin ever existed. He was always a kid that was full of joy, banging and bouncing all over the place, but then again, he was so behind in his school work, and learning normal daily tasks, that it wasn’t worth the trade off, he had to be on Ritalin whether I liked it or not. Anyway, now on Biphentin, plus he is much older, I notice nothing but a positive change in his personality as he is happier to be able to concentrate and be less confused, just as I am as an adult. I think the younger kids don’t really have the thought processes to understand that they are taking a med that is making them think more clearly and that is a good thing, so it is confusing to them why their brains are working differently if you know what I mean. Anyway I went through the same thing. I’m rambling now. Good luck.
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Doesn’t anyone realize what you’re putting into your kids? You are essentially giving your kids cocaine, google cocaine, Ritalin comparision and Biphentin is essentially Ritalin under another name. Wake up people,
March 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Yes well Bruce do you have a child that has ADHD with Compolsive Disorder and that thinks he had to tear off his skin because he sees things on it and by the way he was 3 yrs ok try and manage that one.I myself was a full time and nurse and trying to deal with it.NOBODY would help because of his age…. I went threw 3 yrs of this and then finally a specialist would help. Ok so either you dont have kids or u just dont care to help yours. Its not the fact that we just LOVE to sadate our children but if you only knew what it was like and you only wish to help your children i have tried herbal treatments and well guess what they DON’T work believe me i’ve tryed alot in those three years.This was the only thing that would stop his halusinations and i got my son back. I love my son dearly and would help him anyway possible.It is no worse then an asprin or a stop smoking
March 25th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Shannon,
I feel your love! People like Bruce are sadly misinformed and sound like crazy Tom Cruise! They are not worth your time, and have no clue about what it is like for someone to live with an incurable problem. Yeah Bruce…cocaine…to quote a very popular pop character who probably knows more than him….”GOSH idiot”!
I have a teenage son that has been diagnosed with ADHD and it has opened up a whole new life for my family! We have tried so many things to try and help him with his focus and with his struggle to manage day to day life. We are a close loving family and spend more time with him than his younger siblings. I also learned that it is hereditary. This has been a an self learning adventure as it has given me some lifelong answers to many questions about myself. Thankfully, open minded, educated, non judgemental people, like ourselves, can see passed the myths, negative and untrue hype that insincere people like Bruce create. Nobody enters into medication lightly, and we need to appreciate the individuality of each person and the struggles that they have to deal with.
April 10th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
im 13 years old and this product is the F**kin worst thing i hav ever takn it makes me extreamly angry
April 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I would like to Thank You for some of the information in this article. I am 25, have ADHD, And have been on stimulant medications for 2 Years. These have included only forms of Methylphenidate (Ritalin, Ritalin SR, Concerta). I have, However, had some experience with other forms of Stimulant Meds (i.e. Adderall, Adderall XR, Vyvanse, Dextroamphetamine, And other forms of Amphetamine).
To add to, And SUPPORT, 1 of the Above Comments, Which is very accurate and correct. “…That Biphentin is not addictive.” As noted (By RALPH on Dec. 4, 2006 @ 8:ooa.m.)This remark is Very Obviously Incorrect. Also, It is noted that Biphentin is not Abuseable, Similar to Adderall XR & Concerta. This is also incorrect. Adderall XR, Small beads in a Capsule, Can be crushed and SNORTED, eliminating any “Time-Release” effect, thus creating a HIGH. Or Crushing & Chewing, And then Swallowing the Resulting Powder.
Concerta, An extended-release form of Methylphenidate, Can also be abused by 1. Removing Outermost layer 2. Cutting & Removing second PLASTIC covering 3. Removing Blackish, Brown bottem half of Pill that remains
4. Crushing & Snorting, (OR CHEWING UP) the 2 different colored layers of Methylphenidate. It is moderately difficult and takes some knowhow and Practice, BUT, Is very Do-able. Also, It’s very possible and E-Z to Just Chew Up The Whole Concerta Tablet, Releasing Medication much faster than intended.
May 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Hello all, Im new to this my 13 year old daughter had just been told she has ADD she dosen’t have the hyperness part of it but she struggles in school and socially. She can be told 10 times to do something and she will go do something else. Very frusterating. This has been going on for years and she kepted getting brushed under the carpet by all teachers in the Elementary school but now that she has been in high school this year her English teacher came up to me and said that I should have her tested for ADD so I did the testing with the school and it came back 95% probability that she has ADD so I took her to a pediatrician and he tested her as well and he wants me to put her on the Biphentin. Myself being her mother Im not big into the pill popping with all meds aviod them at all cost. Her grandparents said I should not have her medicated…I don’t know what to do My daughter said (why can’t I take them if it will help me) I have been reading up on ADD and the meds and there side affects and it scares me. Isn’t there diets and other things things othere then meds that can help with the ADD?
May 10th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I discovered that I am ADD much later in life than your daughter. She is lucky to find out now. I take Biphentin and find that it works for me.
There is an onging debate concerning medication for ADD. Many without ADD are against it, often because they feel that the medications are addictive. In this regard, the best comment that I have read in favour of medication is that if they are addictive, why do ADDers frequently forget to take their meds? In other words, if you are ADD they work as designed, if you aren’t they don’t do what they are supposed to do.
I hope that helps.
May 24th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Hello,
My name is Lorie, and my 9 1/2 yr old son has been diagnosed with ADHD for over a yr. now. My husband and I were hesitant at first, when we were told that Adam would benefit taking a medication for his ADHD, to help him concentrate and focus. My husband and I wanted something that would help Adam, and that his life be as normal as possible. Our Pediatrician prescribed Adam with a New Medication for ADHD and just recently came out on the market. He told us that Adam would only have to take it once a day, and that he’d take it with his breakfast, before he left for school in the morning, so nobody else would know, unless Adam was comfortable telling them himself. So we felt comfortable with this decision, and decided to try BIPHENTIN. We played around with the dosage for a couple of months, and now he is taking 40mg of Biphentin daily with his breakfast. Adam is now focusing very well, and doing alot better in school, and socializing with his peers. He feels better too! the only down sides to taking this medication, is that it keeps him up at night, and he loses his appetite around lunch time. For his sleeping problem we brought this concern up to the Pediatrician, and he suggested we try Adam with a natural sleeping pill (Melatonin) this is a natural Chemical that the body produces, and when a child is having trouble sleeping, the body isn’t producing enough. You can purchase Melatonin over the counter in any pharmacy for approx. $13.00-$15.00. It has been working for Adam, and now he’s sleeping well too!
June 17th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Very confusing, how does a stimulant type medicine help a child who is hyperactive already? Davonte is 7 and still cant write or read. Teachers say he is having trouble with social skills too. He does love to cook and bake. He was on concerta but effects wore off early. He’s now on another one forgot the name for focus, doesnt work either, Bowel problems i.e. constipation a problem too. Maybe its medactin?
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August 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Hi Dr. Handelman – I am hoping you can help me with something. I have a 12-year old son who has been on Biphentin (50mg/day) for a year and it has worked wonders for him especially with school. He was diagnosed with ADHD at the age of 7 and after many different meds (ritalin, concerta) this seemed to be the right one for him. Throughout this summer we were giving him breaks at his request. For the past two weeks he hasn’t been on his meds and has been doing quite well and even managed to go away for a week without any problems. He has actually asked to stop taking the meds altogether but I am concerned about this as school is approaching and this is where we were experiencing most of the problems. I am not sure what to do and if I decide that it would be better for him to get back on them before school, will it be dangerous for him to start taking his 50mg again after being off them for a couple of weeks? I am planning to set him up to see his physician before school to further discuss but would like your input. What about even lowering the dose?
August 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Hi Kellie,
These are questions best put to the treating physician. I can’t give direct medical advice on my blog.
As a suggestion to talk to your doctor about – maybe consider starting the school year with the medicine for a month or so, and then try your son without it. If he can continue to do well, he may be OK without medicine for the school year.
Best,
Dr. Kenny
September 13th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Hi,
My son is 6 and possibly has ADHD. He has been quite a handful since the beginning and very hard to manage (I can see he can’t help himself, very impulsive) anyway I waited until the teacher brought something up to me… she finally did say that he was becoming restless in class… so i went straight to the PED… teacher and i both filled out a questionaire and the PED prescribed 20 mg of biphentin. The difference was like night and day! Only thing is I noticed he became more emotional and clingy and ‘wimpish’. Anyhow my husband had not been cooperative and is denial about the whole ordeal.He wanted a 2nd opinion .. so now we took our son off biphentin and are back to square 1…
his new PED . Dr sohail khattak thinks it might be behavioral..and will be doing some testing on him…. in the next few weeks..
Its been a tough 3 days off the biphentin…Can someone please tell me how long the rebound will last?.. And if the emotional/clingyness come with biphetin… what other meds can we try..
I thought biphentin was great.. but if its affecting his personality/esteem…then maybe its not so great..
please help!!
September 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Hi Fareha, my son is now 7, but he was put on Biphentin 20mg last year starting in grade 1. I would recommend to you to put him back on it, he WILL be happier!! my son was the same way when he started taking this medicine, it took about 3 weeks for the side affects to go away. he was very emotional, didn’t eat, couldn’t get to sleep until 11:30pm, which wasn’t good at all!! But was stuck it out and now things couldn’t be better for him. We too could see a difference within one day on the meds, his self esteem has improved for it: ). I know it’s tough at first, but the end results are worth it. My son still has trouble some nights getting to sleep – but he was always a night hawk anyways, but his Paed. Dr. gave us Melatonim 3mg. and life is sweet!!! Good luck!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Hi Dr. Handelman,
My son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 12 (about a year ago). He was put on Concerta (18 mg) which initially helped incredibly. A few months later we noticed that the Concerta didn’t seem as effective as it had been initially and so his dosage was increased to 36 mg. He has managed very well up until a few weeks ago. Since then he has regressed a bit, i.e. not focusing, being argumentative, getting into trouble at school, not listening or taking direction, etc.
I am starting to feel that his dosage may need to be bumped up but I worry. Will his need for medication just keep going up and up? Is his dosage high for a kid his age and weight (almost 14, 120 lbs)? Will he ever be able to function without medication? I am unwittingly contributing to some sort of addiction? Am I setting him up for a future drug addiction?
We live in a very small town, where despite good intentions, there is alot of gossip. Since several friends and one relative work at the clinic where my son sees his doctor, I am often very hesitant to ask any questions regarding this condition. I would be very grateful for any light you could shed on this for me.
Thank you.
September 26th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Dr.Kenny,
I have just put my 9 year son on Biphenten and it seems as he might need a higher dose. For his age he should be on 12mg but the doctor decided to start him on 10mg. However, the problem I have is that I purchased 3 months worth to bring with me to Mexico as he is going to school in Mexico this year. We will not be back in Canada until December. He was taking Ritilin SR which I did not like because of the strong rebound effect and was suggested biphenten. My question is can I give him 1 capsule and split the other to make for a total of 15mg? it is not the ideal situation but I feel it is the only choice I have given that Biphenten 15mg is not available here and I will not back in Canada until December. What do you suggest?? please help?? He cannot sit still in his classroom!
September 27th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Maureen,
Best to talk to your own doctor, if possible. I cannot give you medical advice, but for informational purposes – to review with your doctor – here are some thoughts:
1) Consider adding some regular ritalin or ritalin sr if the does of biphentin isn’t enough
2) open and sprinkle the capsules as you suggest
3) Biphentin can be dosed up to 60 mg. Check with your doctor if it’s OK to raise the dose.
4) The US is much closer to Mexico than Canada. Maybe you can go there? Metadate CD is probably the closest medicine to Biphentin.
I hope that helps.
Dr. Kenny
September 27th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Lisa,
While some people can develop tolerance to ADHD medicines – this will not create ‘addiction’. If it stops working, please talk to the doctor about options – i.e. dose increase or trying a different medicine.
In general, teens do well on 36 mg, 54 mg or even 72 mg. Despite your concerns that your son’s dose is increasing – you are still in the low range of medicine.
I hope that helps.
Dr. Kenny
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October 1st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Hi Dr. Kenny:
My 12 year old daughter has been on 20 mg of Biphentin daily for close to a year. She has recently complained of not being able to see the blackboard in class very clearly.
I took her to an optometrist, who after testing, reported he didn’t see a need for eyeglasses, and that her medication could be causing bluriness. Is this possible after all the time that has passed?
October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
My daughter has been on Biphentin 15 mg off and on since May. I gave her holiday free time. Her concentration is better at school but I noticed some side effects that I’m troubled with. At first she was very teary, withdrawn and clingy. That has since changed. She is now quite chatty (manic like), very happy, bouncy and still impulsive. Should I change her to another med? This is very troubling.
October 15th, 2009 at 9:40 am
I am a 46 year old woman recently diagnosed with ADD. I started on biphentin 20 mg gradually increasing by 20 mg every two weeks to a max level of 60 mg. After being on 60 mg for 6 weeks, I experiened an anxiety attack one saturday eveing at midnight. I was edgy the next day and fine on the subsequent day. On the Wednesday I experienced a second and both my blood pressure and heart rate were (156/88 with a pulse of 90 taken at the local drug store using the on-site monitor). I called my doctor and we agreed to reduce the dosage to 40 mg to see if there was any effect. There are a couple of things that may be contriubting factors — I had anxiety in my mid-20s and it lasted about 5 years and then petered off to occasional incidents. I ate ham on the sunday and the tuesday evening (a rare occurence for me) so I am thinking that maybe the salt was the culprit. My doctor has not come across a reaction like this in other patients. He said I was responding beautifully (and I can feel the change myself). I am loathe to change meds given my positive reaction. Could this just be something my body is working through in accommodating the meds? I have lost 20 lbs in the 10 weeks I have been on the meds (Weight watchers assited). I hae experienced a slight increase in heart burn — more annoying that anything else. Any advice would be very much appreciated as to the reason for the sudden onset. I sleep well on the meds and have no other negative side effects.
October 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
My son is 10, about 96 pounds, he has taken Biphentin for about two-three years, a few months ago it did not appear to be working, he was inattentive, agressive and aggitated, the dr. upped it to 40 mg which seemed to work well, now he has been highly anxious, rubbing his knuckles on the carpet till they bleed, (he had anxiety issues but had seizures from the fluoxetine so we took him off)…the teacher said he was extremely disruptive also the past few weeks, making noises in class, acting silly, so the dr upped the biphentin to 60 mg. Is this too much for a child his age, size? His ADHD is pretty severe, he also cannot swallow pills so Biphentin seems to be the only option…what happens when 60 mg is not enough?
October 18th, 2009 at 11:31 am
An update to my Oct 6 email. My daughter has been diagnosed with Central Auditory problems. Her left and right auditory systems are out of whack. She also has sensory issues to light and sound. These are problematic but not to the point of screaming or avoiding situations. She also needs to see a speech therapist. Initially she was doing great on Biphentin (only 15 mg) but now I’m not sure what’s going on. She is so withdrawn and speaks very slowly. She is so compliant and nothing phases her. It’s nice to a point but she’s letting things happen and not complain. The work in school is getting done but I wonder at what cost. Should we consider another medicine to address the focus?
October 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hi Dr Kenny
Just found your website and it is very informative. Thanks! My son aged 11 has just been diagnosed with ADHD. The doctor is recommending putting him on Biphentin. Not being a fan of any mind altering drugs having been on anti-depressants & anti-anxiety meds myself at various times, I am apprehensive to medicate him. Having said that we have tried every alternative over the years (Omega 3’s, Biofeedback, OT etc.) with no luck, and now that he’s in Grade 6 his challenges to focus on schoolwork are greater. So I think it’s time to try it. One of my concerns though is that he is a very small child for his age (60lbs, 53″ tall) and as a result has had some issues with teasing & bullying. From what I have read online it says that growth can be retarded from these stimulants. Is this something I should be concerned about, or should I be focusing on the big picture of him doing better in school? Always so hard as a parent to make these decisions.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Lilly – Talk to your doctor about your particular case. Growth issues are generally thought to occur about 2-3% of the time. This can be monitored.
Dr. Kenny
October 24th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Greetings Dr. Handelman
I have written to you in the past and appreciate your kind response. We have Vyvance(spelling) here in the US. I know you can not give direct medical advice via the internet but I need a little more information in order to explain the medication to the doctor. Not to sound arrogant but I have been under psyc. treatment for more than 40 years and assure you I have had it all. My use of any stimulant drug would be off label. My DX is Bipolar II, PTSD, and CFS – two tours Vietnam, 30 years 24/7 emergency on call cardiac pacemaker business. The only problem I have difficulty with at present is chronic fatigue and fighting to stay awake. I have in the past abused Concerta (methylphenidate) that was some years ago and have no desire to repeat the experience. I know vyvanse can not be snorted or injected, it must be converted through the liver. The question is will the liver be the limiting organ for the conversion or would increased oral dose lead to tolerance and abuse. I am using Nuvigil (armodafinal) which gives me 4 hours of alertness then stops working suddenly. Splitting the dose, taking at different times makes no difference.
Any information would be welcome – I will not qoute you.
Thank you,
Richard
October 25th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Richard,
Vyvanse is converted via an enzyme – and research is ongoing as to where this actually occurs. The current thinking is that it happens in the serum (i.e. the blood) for the most part.
My understanding is that it does not get saturated. I suggest you read the comments on this post: http://www.addadhdblog.com/vyvanse-no-addiction-with-addadhd-medication/
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
My 12 yr old son,110lbs, was recently diagnosed with CAPD/ADD and prescribed with 30 mg of Biphentin. He’s only been on it for 2 days and has come home from school both days complaining of a bad headache especially around loud noises (band class). Today when I picked him up he looked like hell, extremely agitated, stressed and quite emotional. Is there a break-in period for this drug or would this be the “rebound” effect you speak of above? He claimed to feel this way since around 1:00pm and takes his meds at 7:00am which seems too early for a rebound effect. He seems fine now, after 9-10 hrs.
November 26th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Hi,
My 8 yr old son has been on Focalin XR for about 8 months. He tried the concerta and that did not work for him at all. It made him very angry, oppositional and depressed. The focalin has been working great, however, we have recently found out that we will no longer have access to it as they won’t ship outside the US. We live in Bermuda and have very limited access to meds, our only other option will be regular old Ritalin as there is no way I will put him back on Concerta. I was wondering if the Biphentin is similar to the Focalin, as it sounds very similar. I was also wondering if you knew of any restrictions by the manufacturer in exporting outside Canada/North America. I’d like to approach my son’s doctor as well as those in the medical area here to push for this as a replacement for the Focalin on the island.
Any info you can provide would be great!
Happy Thanksgiving!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
My son is 10 and on 20mg of biphentin, I am not finding the dose quite enough. I phoned his pediatritian to see if we could up it to 30mg but he said he was on the proper dose for his weight and would not increase the amount. My son weighs aprox. 75lbs. I was wondering if this is the right dose or can he increase to the next level and should I persue the issue with the doctor more? His eating habits are back to a good level, but he doea not sleep through the night, he is constantly waking up throughout and does get the odd headache. Your oppinion would be greatly appreciated.
December 8th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Hi Carey,
My son is 7, 8 in March, we weights 48 lbs. He is now on Biphentin 30mg for the past three months. He was on 20mg for 9 months prior to that but we noticed it was working as well as it was before so we moved it up and he is so much better for it. Our Pediatrican recommended a verbal pill Melatonin 3mg for sleeping, we takes it 1/2 before bed and he has had a good nights rest since we started that. With these two combined, I have a happier, healthier boy. I hope this helps you!!
December 9th, 2009 at 2:36 am
This will be my last try to communicate with Dr. Handleman. I have never been told I have ADHD, although I had all the sysptoms in my years of schooling. I am now at a point in my life (age 65) were I am trying to live out the years I have left in some degree of comfort.My DX: Bipolar II, PTSD, and Chronic Fatigue Sydrome. I currently take the following Drugs as directed:Lamotrigine 200mg, Fluoxetine 20mg, Nuvigil 500mg, Clonazepram 1mg prn (not to exceed 2mg per day) and temazepam 30mg 1 at bedtime. I have been given Nuvigil due to past aduse of amphetamines and Methelphenadte.At a cost of more the $600.00 dollars per month the Nuvigil the is hardly worth the bother. When abused amphetamine and methelphenidate I did no “Snort” or “injet” the drug I simply swallowed too much of it.
Please don’t treat me like a idiot, I don’t think I would be bragging if I told you I know more about these drugs than my psychiatrist does I have been doing the research for 40 years. I have finally convinced my psychiatrist to take some classes in retro-viruses (I had Mono in 64 and the antibodies show up in every blood test). Also had exposure to stuff in Vietnam, worked 24/7 emergency on call Cardiac Pacemaker business. I don’t expect any doctor to feed a bad habit but I would like to see some meaningfull treatment for CFS (the rest is under controll). Let’s stop the ask your doctor nonsense – I have to tell her what to do!
Thank you for your kind attention,
Richard
December 10th, 2009 at 2:26 am
Richard,
Thanks for the comment.
The issue here is that I don’t know what to tell you. I can understand that you don’t want me to say ‘ask your doctor’. The fact is that I don’t think I can give a competent medical answer to help you out.
As I’m sure you know – Vyvanse is less likely to be abused than the others, though if you swallow more of it then you should, then it can lead to symptoms of being high on it as well.
I’m not an expert in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, so I don’t know what to say.
Tricyclic antidepressants can work for ADHD, though they could potentially destabilize your bipolar II, and may cause fatigue as a side effect.
Obviously, there is no easy answer.
I wish you well.
Dr. Kenny
December 10th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
How long does a child need to be on a 10 mg daily dosage of Biphentin before one can evaluate its efficacy?
M
December 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
I AM RAISINGMY GRANDSON WGO HAS ADHD .HE IS VERY HYPER AND TALKATIVE.HECANT SIT STILLFORVERY LONG.TODAY IN SCHOOL HE BECAME VERY AGGRESSIVE AND STARTED HITTING HIS TEACHERS.THEY COULDNT CONTROLL HIM AT ALL.HE WAS PUT IN TIME OUT BUT STILL HE WAS AGGRESSIVE.HES TAKING RITLIN SR 20MG.I HAVE HAD HIM ON CONCERTA STRATTERA AND REGULAR RITLIN.NOTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I CAN DO TO HELP HIM.HES NOT CONCENTRATING IN SCHOOL AND IS HAVING DIFFICULT WITH ANY AND ALL SCHOOL WORK.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Hi June,
Of course, talk to the doctor.
When it comes to the medicines you’ve listed – you haven’t tried a medicine in the ‘amphetamines’ category – i.e. Dexedrine or Adderall. Consider one of these with the doctor.
All the best,
Dr. Kenny
http://www.safeadhdmedication.com
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Dr. Handelman,
My 16 1/2 yr old son was diagnosed with ADHD at age 6. He was not put on medication until the age of 7. He has been under the care of the same psychiatrist for med management since diagnosis. He was started on Ritalin and eventually started on Concerta at the lower dosages. He has been taking 108 mg. Concerta in the AM since he was 10 1/2 yrs old. He has done very well with this dosage At age 14, he was diagnosed Bipolar on top of the ADHD. As my son grew taller and bigger (now 265 lbs and 6′ tall) , we have found that it is difficult to keep him focused depending on what he needs for classes thru the day at High school. The doctor added standard short acting Methylphenidate to his 108 mg. in the AM and another 40 mg in the afternoon. It is now finals time at school. He took 108 mg Concerta, plus his 20 mg methylphenidate at 5 AM. He called me at 9:30 AM requesting another dose of Methylphenidate. I said no as the Concerta hasn’t peaked yet (half life of Concerta is about 6 hours, isn’t it?) and didn’t want him crash later today or rebound. I also called his doctor and asked if it was permissible to give him another 20 mg of methylphenidate 5 hours after his first dosage. Haven’t heard back yet. I am curious as what your input is on this. He is also on Lamictal 100 mg b.i.d. for bipolar disorder, and celexa 40 mg once a day for anxiety. FYI- I always consult with the doctor for any titration advice, just curious what you think. That is all.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Patricia,
While it can be OK to combine long acting and short acting Methylphenidate – the main concern is the combined effects on the cardiovascular system. This all comes down to the total daily dose, and what your doctor feels is safe for your son.
He’s certainly in the higher range of doses right now.
Dr. Kenny
http://www.SafeADHDMedication.com
December 29th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Good morning Doctor Kenny,
My son (now 7 and 44 pounds) was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 6. At first he was on 15 mg of ridilin. 2 pills at 8 am and one at noon. However, after 2 weeks on that we had to switch his meds as he was an emotional rollercoster wreck. As such, the doctor put him on Concerta 18 mg which seemed to work well for almost a year. This past fall, we had to up his concerta to 27 mg, and found that he was beeing overdosed. He was very lethargic and sad a lot of the time. He had no personality. I took him back to the doctor and we have put him on Strattera, 10 mg for 3 days and 18 mg for 20 days. Since he has switched his medication (December 9th) , he is suffering from insomnia, waking at 4 a.m. and not beeing able to fall back asleep. I am returning to the doctor this week, but wondered which medication you would recomment that we try next.
Thanks and Happy New Year!
December 31st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
As a mother to an 11 year old boy with classic ADD, I can honestly say that Biphentin has brought him from struggling in school to being on honour roll!!! It’s been a lifesaver in these past 12 months since he started, and he’s so much more self-confident and happy. He doesn’t pick apart erasers into a million pieces during class anymore, or doodle cartoons on his assignments instead of doing his work. He’s finally not hassled by his “brain having a party he can’t stop”!
He’s got a bit of a loss of appetite, but not enough to be losing weight….
It’s been a godsend for us!
December 31st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
BTW- for any sleep issues, our doctor (child clinical psychiatrist) advise melatonin about 30 minutes before bedtime. Works like a charm!
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Happy New Year Dr. Handelman,
My 5 1/2 year old son was diagnosed with ADHD approx. 5 months ago. We tried Ritalin for a few months – saw improvements in the beginning but then wore off so pediatrician recommended Biphentin which he has been on for approx. 3 months. About 1 1/2 months ago he developed tics – some horrific ones such as eyes rolling uncontrollably up into his head and a gasping for breath sound. That lasted weeks and reappears every few weeks and in between other tics appear such as tugging at the neck of his shirt or arm every minute or sniffing uncontrollably all day long or the constant blinking of his eyes. The pediatrician has said to make them invisible, which we have done, but are extremely concerned about them. When he wakes in the morning the tics seem to not exist until he takes the Biphentin and then they appear. About a year prior to any diagnosis or medication he did have the ‘blinking eye’ tic constantly that would come and go. The pedicatrician also indicated that the only other option – that is said not to develop/increase tics – is a medication (Strattera, I think) that has to be swallowed whole which he wouldn’t be able to do. We do have an appointment with a child pychiatrist set up for an assessment but in the meantime are extremely worried about the tics and hope they are not in some way harming him – they are so noticeable.
Any advice that you could offer would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your time,
Lee
January 4th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Lee – tics can be worsened by stimulant medicines, especially when someone is prone to them.
To make it very simple – you can either stop the stimulants, try the non-stimulants, or take a medicine with the stimulant to try to lower the tics (i.e. clonidine or risperidone). Of course if you add a new medicine, you can have other side effects too.
Talk to your doctor about these options.
All the best,
Dr. Kenny
http://www.SafeADHDMedication.com
January 6th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Hi,
My 16 years old daughter 85 lbs is currently taking biphentin. She has been taking this for a year and a half, but I find the side effect of it with her is too much, she had lost a lot of weight and vomits. Our doctor had her checked if there is any problem with her vomiting. Our doctor had prescribed Nexium to stop the acid reflex but it doesn’t seem to stop it. My daughter wants to stop taking it and see how she will be able to handle the focusing in class and sick and tired of feeling nauseous.
Is there any other alternative thing to do.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
and in addition she is taking 60 mg of biphentin.
Thanks,
Cecile
January 7th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Wow, my son is also 85 lbs and has just been bumped up to 40 mg…. could 60 mg be too much for her tiny frame?
I’m no doctor, though… will let Dr. Kenny answer that!
January 21st, 2010 at 2:18 pm
My daughter is 6 years old, and was “officially” diagnosed with inattentive ADD by her pediatrician yesterday. It wasn’t her behaviour that prompted testing for ADD, it was her daytime wetting – she wets her pants 3-5 times daily. I read that daytime wetting in schoolage children is 10 times higher in those with ADD. But I was actually surprised when her diagnosis came back positive.
In the last 1 1/2 years, she has seen 2 pediatricians, 2 child pshychologists. Her ECE teachers,caregivers, me, grandparents, father, family doctor, etc. have not been able to figure it out. We’ve tried ALL methods of potty training with no improvements.
Several urinalysis tests have ruled out infection, her ultrasounds show a healthy bladder. Psychologists had ruled out ADHD and any other emotional distress or trauma. The general consensus is that she simply chooses when to use the washroom by herself, usually when not engaged in something else. So we know she can do it…when she wants to.
I’ve had to put her back into training pants, which she hates and she is embarassed by the accidents.
She has been prescribed Biphentin 10mg for a month’s trial. I have not yet started her on the medication as I wanted to know as much about it as possible.
So finally, my question…..has anyone else been experiencing this with their children?
Dr. Kenny, in your expert opinion, could her daytime wetting be directly related to inattentive ADD? Have you had experience with these circumstances?
January 26th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Has anyone had experience, or are currently dealing with, daytime wetting in their school age children with ADD? My 6 year old daughter was recently diagnosed with ADD by her pediatrician and he’s prescribed a month’s trial of Biphentin 10mg for her. My daughter wets her pants 3-5 times a day – a symptom of her ADD her doctor says. He believes the biphentin will give her control over her accidents.
Dr. Kenny, do you have an experience with this? Any insight?
January 27th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Shara, I have had patients who have done better with stimulants when they have wetting. And then there are some who don’t. If your daughter’s wetting doesn’t improve when her ADHD symptoms improve, then you on solid ground to challenge the doctor to get other help.
Dr. Kenny
January 30th, 2010 at 8:43 am
heeeey, im not trying to be rude but concert aderallXR and espicially biphentin can be abuded ive try snorting them all them all, concerta gives you a little buzz but its pointless, because you have to work so hard just to take of the two layers of wax and cut the wax off the pill so you can get the little bit of methylphenidate,rush it and sniff it, you get a light pointless buzz and a block nostral full of wax.aderallXR i find is stupid because you barely get a high feeling by snorting it, and if you snort it at night it very difficult to fall asleep for about 6 to 8 hours, and if you do end up fall asleep before 6 hours, your lucky!,now we get to biphentin, ive been doing biphentin for about a year, and i do about a percription bottle of 60mg a month, now biphentive is very easy to abuse and addictive, the way you abuse bifent is by pulling apart the capsule and dumping the beads out, then you crush it in a pill crusher or anything similar to that or else the little beads will fly everywhere once your done crushing it you snort one or two crushed up pills. depending how fast you do it you can start the high while snorting it,and or if you snort it fast the buzz will come shorty after. snorting the biphence give you a really good and very strongh high, most people become very talking, and happy, and some creative, and kind. what snorting biphentin does to me is, it makes me very happy, very talkative, loving towards important people to me,it makes me creaative, very determined to figure things out, for example an old favorite song i forgot many years ago. but when you snort it it last for about 8 to 10 hours so if you do it at night, dont expect to fall asleep any time soon without sleeping pill. As great as biphentin is its its my seconde favorite, ritalin/methylphenidate, come in only 2 different mg, 10 milligrams (the little blue pill) and 20mg (the bright yellow pill) this is my favorite drug and gives the best and greatest high, its simmilar to biphentin in the majority of ways, but the effects are better with methylphenidate, if you dont believe me people try it for yourself. im not trying to encourage it, but im not a liar and i know what im talking about. i dont control anyone, do and say what you want, i was just letting you know.
February 4th, 2010 at 2:02 am
Hi.
My son just turned 7 and is in grade 1. He weighs about 45lbs. He is officially diagnosed with ADHD combined and gifted (though giftedness is not recognized in the public schools until grade 4). His biggest problem in school is his impulsiveness. It is making life impossible. I must mention that at home he is manageable and over the winter break he was not on meds and was very manageable.
He is currently taking 30mg of biphentin. It ’smooths’ him out during the day, but doesn’t really do anything major with the impulsivity. We had tried concerta. 18mg didn’t do anything and 27mg made him very angry frustrated.
Could his dose maybe need increasing? He is tall but quite slim so he’s not a heavy kid to begin with and I know dosing is typically 1mg/kg/day. Of course I will consult with his Dr., but just looking for another opinion. Also, we stopped the 27mg of concerta after 3 days since we couldn’t handle the anger levels (which we never see when not taking the 27mg). Should we have tried the 27mg longer to see if things leveled off?
Is there a better drug option to deal with impulsivity?
Thanks for you response.
Tracy