Comments on: Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) and ADHD http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/ A blog about Attention Deficit Disorder, and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:13:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Erica http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-856293 Erica Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:42:44 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-856293 I have a 10 year old daughter who has been diagnosed with ODD. SHe does not have ADD or ADHD..her therapist thinks she has a mood disorder or explosive disorder. We have seen a psychiatrist and he does not agree. My question is..are there any meds that help ODD alone? Everything is a fight..getting to bed..waking up..getting dressed..brushing our teeth...we spent a week in Disney with family and she was miserable..saying at least 3 times a day she hated us and wanted to go home.. I have a 10 year old daughter who has been diagnosed with ODD. SHe does not have ADD or ADHD..her therapist thinks she has a mood disorder or explosive disorder. We have seen a psychiatrist and he does not agree. My question is..are there any meds that help ODD alone?
Everything is a fight..getting to bed..waking up..getting dressed..brushing our teeth…we spent a week in Disney with family and she was miserable..saying at least 3 times a day she hated us and wanted to go home..

]]> By: shelly http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-848857 shelly Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:54:34 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-848857 my son has just been diagnosed with odd i have been fighting for him since he was 18 months old and now he is 9 i just kept getting told that he is just a boisterous boy he has been put forward to go on a anger management course and that there is no medication for him what i would like to say if you know that there is something not right with your child be persistant and you will get a answer in the end thank you my son has just been diagnosed with odd i have been fighting for him since he was 18 months old and now he is 9 i just kept getting told that he is just a boisterous boy he has been put forward to go on a anger management course and that there is no medication for him what i would like to say if you know that there is something not right with your child be persistant and you will get a answer in the end thank you

]]> By: Hyacinth Adens http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-840112 Hyacinth Adens Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:38:39 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-840112 Early diagnosis can really help a great deal in knowing whether our kids do have ODD, ADHD, ADD or a combination of each one. It's easy to just label kids with behavior problems as defiant and extremely naughty but we often fail to realize that ther may be more to their negative behavior. Treating any of these disorders can take time since one should make sure if the behavior modification programs and the medications can relieve them of their symptoms. This is why the best thing a parent to do is ask help from experienced professionals as well as parents who have the same experiences as them. From there, we can get tips and ideas on how to effectively deal with your defiant teens - whether they suffer from ODD/ADHD or not. Consider this a good read: http://www.teenwildernessprograms.org/teen-wilderness-programs/tips-for-parents-of-addadhd-teenagers.html Early diagnosis can really help a great deal in knowing whether our kids do have ODD, ADHD, ADD or a combination of each one. It’s easy to just label kids with behavior problems as defiant and extremely naughty but we often fail to realize that ther may be more to their negative behavior. Treating any of these disorders can take time since one should make sure if the behavior modification programs and the medications can relieve them of their symptoms. This is why the best thing a parent to do is ask help from experienced professionals as well as parents who have the same experiences as them. From there, we can get tips and ideas on how to effectively deal with your defiant teens – whether they suffer from ODD/ADHD or not. Consider this a good read:
http://www.teenwildernessprograms.org/teen-wilderness-programs/tips-for-parents-of-addadhd-teenagers.html

]]> By: Donna http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-720432 Donna Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:18:05 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-720432 My son just turned 8 today, he started showing sighns of a behavorial problem at 5 years old. The 1st time I took him to get evaluated i was told he was just an extremely smart child who has learned to manipulate me when he doesn't get his way. I left that office everything put on me that i needed to be more consistant more strict, now i have another son 2 1/2 years older that my discipline has worked for but i do know that every child is different too, so for the next 2 years I struggled to find a discipline that not only worked but that I could use consistantly. Nothing worked but only got worse more intense to the point that I was questioning myself and my ability to parent with the words of that therapist constantly in my mind. I even seeked help for myself because the everyday battle with my son was not only wearing on me, I was stressed & depressed thinking "what am I doing wrong". I became unpleasant to be around because after battling with my son I would snap at anyone else around me. Finally @ 7 years old in 1st grade his behaviorstarted showing at school & causing problems, he was being looked at as a troublemaker because his grades were average, teachers saying he does what he wants to do they couldn't get him to do work, stay seated, sometimes total refusal to even get up & leave the class room. Fortunately around this time that did the routine MAPS tseting to see were the kids were at & my son tested the highest in all his grade in that school. This seemed to bring attention to the teacher that something was wrong with him to be that smart but be having the behavioral issues. I took him back to the same place I took him 2 years before but seen someone different. He was 1st diagnosed with ADHD by having us and all the teachers fill out evaluations on him. The next step was for her to do her own hour long evaluation with just him. When we met to talk about all the results she said he had ODD and was the most extreme ODD she had personally ever seen, but with his intelligence he acted not like a normal 7 year old with ODD but like a 15 year old with ODD. When explained what ODD stood for Oppostional Defiant Disorder I knew by the name itself described my son to a T. I felt a huge weight off my shoulders immediately! I also realized it meant something was wrong with my son but knowing what it was and knowing that if we know means we can start to help him was so relieving. We started him on ADHD medicine which was said that if you can help the ADHD you can help the ODD. Meaning that if you can get him to sit down and focus on what he is suppose to do than you won't have the confrontations of trying to correct him which is when the ODD was most obvious. They 1st ADHD meds Methythinadate ? for spelling than Adderall we could tell within days was not going to work becuase he goit more aggressive, the ODD was more extreme. Thats when they realized that he was reacting negativily to the stimulate in those meds. So They put him on Intuniv which is a nonstimulant and we saw a difference in my son immediately. Now we did hit a wall with each dosage after a few months but once we got to the highest of 4 mg he became too sleepy most of the time. So at this time we are going back down to 3 mg but we are going to add something for his moods to it b/c thats what seems to still be present even with the meds. His ODD is very mood driven but his reactions and agressions have greatly been decreased with meds and monthly family therapy. The therapy allows him to learn positive ways to manage his disorder by learning choices and rewards. It also helps me learn how to handle him and help him manage. My son can now tell you how he use to feel out of control of himself and that he didn't like the way he use to feel but now he does. Are life is by no means perfect but we now are living are lives thanks to medicine & therapy. Its has to be both because without the medicine they can't control how they feel long enough to learn how to manage it. His dad & I have been divorced most all of his life but his dad can tell me that he suffered the same symptoms as a child with no one who cared enough to get him help, which lead to conduct issues and substance abuse as a teen. now has an adult he has never been able to control his emotions at times was abusive still abusing drugs from time to time, in & out of jail and can't hold a job more than 3 months due to getting angry with bosses qiuting or getting fired. I really truly believe that my son's dad suffers from this and its been left undiagnosed & untreated, which makes me even more dtermined to help my son treat and manage this disorder so he can have control of his life instead of the disorder controlling him. My son now in 2nd grade is making the honor roll & showing just how smart he really is. He also can tell me what meds work by how they make him feel & can tell me he doesnt want to go without them because he never wants to feel like that again. My son just turned 8 today, he started showing sighns of a behavorial problem at 5 years old. The 1st time I took him to get evaluated i was told he was just an extremely smart child who has learned to manipulate me when he doesn’t get his way. I left that office everything put on me that i needed to be more consistant more strict, now i have another son 2 1/2 years older that my discipline has worked for but i do know that every child is different too, so for the next 2 years I struggled to find a discipline that not only worked but that I could use consistantly. Nothing worked but only got worse more intense to the point that I was questioning myself and my ability to parent with the words of that therapist constantly in my mind. I even seeked help for myself because the everyday battle with my son was not only wearing on me, I was stressed & depressed thinking “what am I doing wrong”. I became unpleasant to be around because after battling with my son I would snap at anyone else around me. Finally @ 7 years old in 1st grade his behaviorstarted showing at school & causing problems, he was being looked at as a troublemaker because his grades were average, teachers saying he does what he wants to do they couldn’t get him to do work, stay seated, sometimes total refusal to even get up & leave the class room. Fortunately around this time that did the routine MAPS tseting to see were the kids were at & my son tested the highest in all his grade in that school. This seemed to bring attention to the teacher that something was wrong with him to be that smart but be having the behavioral issues. I took him back to the same place I took him 2 years before but seen someone different. He was 1st diagnosed with ADHD by having us and all the teachers fill out evaluations on him. The next step was for her to do her own hour long evaluation with just him. When we met to talk about all the results she said he had ODD and was the most extreme ODD she had personally ever seen, but with his intelligence he acted not like a normal 7 year old with ODD but like a 15 year old with ODD. When explained what ODD stood for Oppostional Defiant Disorder I knew by the name itself described my son to a T. I felt a huge weight off my shoulders immediately! I also realized it meant something was wrong with my son but knowing what it was and knowing that if we know means we can start to help him was so relieving. We started him on ADHD medicine which was said that if you can help the ADHD you can help the ODD. Meaning that if you can get him to sit down and focus on what he is suppose to do than you won’t have the confrontations of trying to correct him which is when the ODD was most obvious. They 1st ADHD meds Methythinadate ? for spelling than Adderall we could tell within days was not going to work becuase he goit more aggressive, the ODD was more extreme. Thats when they realized that he was reacting negativily to the stimulate in those meds. So They put him on Intuniv which is a nonstimulant and we saw a difference in my son immediately. Now we did hit a wall with each dosage after a few months but once we got to the highest of 4 mg he became too sleepy most of the time. So at this time we are going back down to 3 mg but we are going to add something for his moods to it b/c thats what seems to still be present even with the meds. His ODD is very mood driven but his reactions and agressions have greatly been decreased with meds and monthly family therapy. The therapy allows him to learn positive ways to manage his disorder by learning choices and rewards. It also helps me learn how to handle him and help him manage. My son can now tell you how he use to feel out of control of himself and that he didn’t like the way he use to feel but now he does. Are life is by no means perfect but we now are living are lives thanks to medicine & therapy. Its has to be both because without the medicine they can’t control how they feel long enough to learn how to manage it. His dad & I have been divorced most all of his life but his dad can tell me that he suffered the same symptoms as a child with no one who cared enough to get him help, which lead to conduct issues and substance abuse as a teen. now has an adult he has never been able to control his emotions at times was abusive still abusing drugs from time to time, in & out of jail and can’t hold a job more than 3 months due to getting angry with bosses qiuting or getting fired. I really truly believe that my son’s dad suffers from this and its been left undiagnosed & untreated, which makes me even more dtermined to help my son treat and manage this disorder so he can have control of his life instead of the disorder controlling him. My son now in 2nd grade is making the honor roll & showing just how smart he really is. He also can tell me what meds work by how they make him feel & can tell me he doesnt want to go without them because he never wants to feel like that again.

]]> By: Dr. Kenny Handelman http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-480422 Dr. Kenny Handelman Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:57:12 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-480422 Sara, Thanks for sharing your comment. In a way - you are asking for a consultation review on the blog... (which is hard to do). You can see my overall approach with ADHD here: www.attentiondifferencedisorder.com/book And generally, when ADHD improves, ODD improves. Maybe some of the other blog readers can provide suggestions. Sara,
Thanks for sharing your comment. In a way – you are asking for a consultation review on the blog… (which is hard to do).
You can see my overall approach with ADHD here: http://www.attentiondifferencedisorder.com/book
And generally, when ADHD improves, ODD improves.
Maybe some of the other blog readers can provide suggestions.

]]> By: Sara Hertneck Ry's mom http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-479473 Sara Hertneck Ry's mom Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:36:40 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-479473 My daughterwas diagnosed July 2010. We tried 7 different meds from.July until Feb 2011, I watched my beautiful baby lose her mind. Adderall was the worst, her therapist kept upping her dose. She droppex so much weight and wasnt sleeping. I finally found a doctor and admitted her. she was properly diagnosed ADHD/ ODD. She was in patient for 5 days, outpatient for 7. its still a struggle amd we go day to day. I think schools need to have more training. The way my daughter was dealt with was suspending up to 3 times a week. She was totally discriminated against. At her school we have 6 bi-lingual teachers but no help for ED kids. They wouldnt even put her in Special Ed because her IQ is so high. I did my homework and pushed and finally 2 days before school was out I got help. Would really like some advice on what different te,hniques help. Thks Ry's mom. My daughterwas diagnosed July 2010. We tried 7 different meds from.July until Feb 2011, I watched my beautiful baby lose her mind. Adderall was the worst, her therapist kept upping her dose. She droppex so much weight and wasnt sleeping. I finally found a doctor and admitted her. she was properly diagnosed ADHD/ ODD. She was in patient for 5 days, outpatient for 7. its still a struggle amd we go day to day. I think schools need to have more training. The way my daughter was dealt with was suspending up to 3 times a week. She was totally discriminated against. At her school we have 6 bi-lingual teachers but no help for ED kids. They wouldnt even put her in Special Ed because her IQ is so high. I did my homework and pushed and finally 2 days before school was out I got help. Would really like some advice on what different te,hniques help. Thks Ry’s mom.

]]> By: Cindy Soto http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-444234 Cindy Soto Thu, 09 Jun 2011 22:04:09 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-444234 Shelly, My daughter (now 15) has many comorbidities with her ADHD that we are trying to work through. She has been on all of the meds you mentioned (since 3rd grade) and they worked for a short time but stopped working after awhile. She has been on Focalin which is wonderful, but then we switched her to Vyvanse which is even better because it has a longer acting component to it that gets her through evening time with homework, chores, etc. Both of those are awesome meds that have really made a difference for her! Shelly,

My daughter (now 15) has many comorbidities with her ADHD that we are trying to work through. She has been on all of the meds you mentioned (since 3rd grade) and they worked for a short time but stopped working after awhile. She has been on Focalin which is wonderful, but then we switched her to Vyvanse which is even better because it has a longer acting component to it that gets her through evening time with homework, chores, etc. Both of those are awesome meds that have really made a difference for her!

]]> By: shelly http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-349430 shelly Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:57:52 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-349430 I have an 8 year old male whose been diagnosed with adhd and odd. He started kindergarten on a patch called daytrama. This was good for a year! since than he has been on concerta,ritalin.aderal, all diff. mg's and time frames!! nothing seems to work! They wont put him on an I.E.P because the principal and the man at the board of education says academicly he is further ahead than others in his room. Can anyone tell me of a med that works in combination for adhd/odd that i haven't mentioned! I have an 8 year old male whose been diagnosed with adhd and odd. He started kindergarten on a patch called daytrama. This was good for a year! since than he has been on concerta,ritalin.aderal, all diff. mg’s and time frames!! nothing seems to work! They wont put him on an I.E.P because the principal and the man at the board of education says academicly he is further ahead than others in his room. Can anyone tell me of a med that works in combination for adhd/odd that i haven’t mentioned!

]]> By: Heidi http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-346844 Heidi Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:48:00 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-346844 I am hoping someone can help me figure out if my ADHD son also has this other ODD. He is taking medication for ADHD and was undiagnosed for YEARS because he was likeable to his teachers as a younger kid. It seemed he just couldnt settle. After many difficult years I finally took him to a pediatrition who specialized in ADHD. He is now 14 and in the 8th grade has been taking medication for only about a year and a half. Pairing the sever ADHD with adolesence has been a challenge. I am now wondering about ODD because if and when he forgets his medicine I ALWAYS get a call about his disruptive behavior and blurting out disrespectful comments etc. I also notice that at home in the afternoons he is irritating and never able to complete a task without another dose. It wasnt like this at first. What can I do...maybe its my parenting and I need some tips or something....he is a great kid but its like we cant get past this hurdle. He is the youngest of 5 and it seems that it is beyone just normal teenager junk. PLease comment. Thanks I am hoping someone can help me figure out if my ADHD son also has this other ODD. He is taking medication for ADHD and was undiagnosed for YEARS because he was likeable to his teachers as a younger kid. It seemed he just couldnt settle. After many difficult years I finally took him to a pediatrition who specialized in ADHD. He is now 14 and in the 8th grade has been taking medication for only about a year and a half. Pairing the sever ADHD with adolesence has been a challenge. I am now wondering about ODD because if and when he forgets his medicine I ALWAYS get a call about his disruptive behavior and blurting out disrespectful comments etc. I also notice that at home in the afternoons he is irritating and never able to complete a task without another dose. It wasnt like this at first. What can I do…maybe its my parenting and I need some tips or something….he is a great kid but its like we cant get past this hurdle. He is the youngest of 5 and it seems that it is beyone just normal teenager junk.
PLease comment.
Thanks

]]> By: Issac Oghenekevebe http://www.addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/comment-page-1/#comment-328440 Issac Oghenekevebe Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:04:47 +0000 http://addadhdblog.com/oppositional-defiant-disorder-odd-and-adhd/#comment-328440 Hi. My name is Issac "Elite" Oghenekevebe. I have have ODD and ADHD since I was 8 years old. It's not as easy to get rid of as people may think but it is possible. I easily feel irritated esp. when my cell goes off and think that everyone is watching or talking about me. I have many musical talents and I use music to express myself. I feel when Im writting, Im free to express myself like Im talking to someone. The music I produce is all genres because I consistantly have to switch things up. Running my record label is a what I do and sometimes its hard to sit and focus on the music because of my ADHD. I love to dance too, any type. It helps my mind and body. I know its funny that I should be typing this instend of speaking to someone but I just thought maybe someone else might feel the way I do. The only real way to live life with ODD/ADHD is with Jesus Christ as your savior because he loves you when everyone else has rejected you and he can show you a better and happier life with purpose and meaning. He talks to me, like a conscience, in a still small voice and tells me that people arent out to get me and helps me with attention and focus. I still stuggle with it but its alot better than before. I thought you should hear this from someone with ODD and ADHD and not a doctor because this is the truth. You can do it, but not alone, remember that. Hi. My name is Issac “Elite” Oghenekevebe. I have have ODD and ADHD since I was 8 years old. It’s not as easy to get rid of as people may think but it is possible. I easily feel irritated esp. when my cell goes off and think that everyone is watching or talking about me. I have many musical talents and I use music to express myself. I feel when Im writting, Im free to express myself like Im talking to someone. The music I produce is all genres because I consistantly have to switch things up. Running my record label is a what I do and sometimes its hard to sit and focus on the music because of my ADHD. I love to dance too, any type. It helps my mind and body. I know its funny that I should be typing this instend of speaking to someone but I just thought maybe someone else might feel the way I do. The only real way to live life with ODD/ADHD is with Jesus Christ as your savior because he loves you when everyone else has rejected you and he can show you a better and happier life with purpose and meaning. He talks to me, like a conscience, in a still small voice and tells me that people arent out to get me and helps me with attention and focus. I still stuggle with it but its alot better than before. I thought you should hear this from someone with ODD and ADHD and not a doctor because this is the truth. You can do it, but not alone, remember that.

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